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re: Has there ever been any shockers in Heisman vote?
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:03 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:03 pm to Adam Banks
Yeah. in 2019 when JB9 didnt get EVERY vote
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:03 pm to soccerfüt
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Way back in 192 ….
That was extremely way back.
Marcus Cassius Velius got robbed. I don't care what Garius Danielus the Eunuch says.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:11 pm to Thorny
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I love what Fournette was able to accomplish at LSU, but the run blocking was awful in that Bama game
FIFY
This post was edited on 12/9/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:12 pm to Adam Banks
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Peyton manning Charles Woodson
Wouldn’t call that a shocker. Manning should have won, but there was such a huge media push all year for Woodson, it was not a shock at all when he won.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:14 pm to RMLtiger
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Fournette not even getting an invite because of one game that was not his fault
But he did jack shite in that game while Henry broke our defenses will.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:25 pm to StadiumDormNEZ72
Lamar Jackson over Deshaun Watson?
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:37 pm to 3HourTour
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Peyton manning Charles Woodson
This. Peyton was robbed.
Peyton was great, but Woodson was the most outstanding player. He was gigantic in every big game they played and played huge on both sides of the ball (and even on special teams). He had big catches in numerous games, 7 interceptions, and also shut down a side of the field.
In the Ohio State game (obviously the biggest game), he had a 78-yard punt return for a TD, a huge catch, and a huge interception as Ohio State was trying to score. And Michigan hasn't won a national title since Woodson.
His phenomenal NFL career proved that he wasn't a fluke either with 9 pro-bowl seasons. I believe he is tied for the most pick 6s in NFL history too.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:38 pm to Brotorious
Charles Woodson was a good defensive player. But his Heisman campaign was pure media collaboration. He was a creation.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:45 pm to Thorny
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he did nothing to beat Bama that year.
We all know there was nothing he could have done. Saban knew what Miles was going to do, and Fournette had no shot at beating that Alabama team by himself.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:55 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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But he did jack shite in that game while Henry broke our defenses will.
LSU's playcalling was among the worst I have ever seen.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:58 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Peyton not winning was part media hype “let’s vote for a defensive player for change!” But mostly Woodson played amazing in Michigan’s big rivalry game while those were the days when QBs were punished for not winning the big one and Peyton could not get over the spurrier / Gator hump. JD beating Bama last year was huge.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:59 pm to Philzilla
Penix +1000 latest I saw. That would be biggest shocker i know of if JD doesn’t take it tonight
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:59 pm to StadiumDormNEZ72
Peyton being robbed...
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:00 pm to StadiumDormNEZ72
Manning
McCaffery
Colt McCoy
All three were robbed! Two by Bama RB's
McCaffery
Colt McCoy
All three were robbed! Two by Bama RB's
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:05 pm to soccerfüt
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Way back in 192 ….
That was extremely way back.
192 AD Roman Emperor Commodus survives poisoning attempt by his mistress only to be strangled in the bath in assassination plot
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:28 pm to West Bank Dan
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Peyton not winning was part media hype “let’s vote for a defensive player for change!” But mostly Woodson played amazing in Michigan’s big rivalry game while those were the days when QBs were punished for not winning the big one and Peyton could not get over the spurrier / Gator hump. JD beating Bama last year was huge.
There was definitely an element of that, but he made huge plays in just about every close game they played. They didn't play many top tier teams, but he carried them in their big games on defense, offense and special teams. When you make games changing plays on offense ,defense and special teams, it gives you an advantage over guys that play on one side of the ball or whatever.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:39 pm to Thorny
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I love what Fournette was able to accomplish at LSU, but he was awful in that Bama game. Held to 31 yards on 19 carries (1.63 YPC). He had one good drive, with an 18 yard run and a 1-yard TD after Bama gave up a fumble on their own 22.
Yes, Fournette should have been invited, but he did nothing to beat Bama that year. 22
How stupid can you get?
How is it Fournette’s fault that Les called toss dive right and toss dive left over and over while Bama stacked the LOS with 9 players while their safeties played 5-7 yards off the line all night long???
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:21 pm to Thorny
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he was awful in that Bama game
No he wasn't. He had no blocking. If he had 31 yards Derrick Henry would have had 21.
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