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Hanny made a great point on his show about our opponents moving forward

Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:52 pm
He believes, as do I, that Georgia will likely pitch backwards and try to win games 2 and 3. In SEC tourney or a regional, it's not as easy to pitch backwards because the ace will be thrown the first game to avoid a losers bracket situation. In a super regional, you can almost bank on an opponent pitching backwards to avoid losing to Skenes with their #1. Should be interesting to monitor moving forward.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51204 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:54 pm to
If thats the case we should announce Skenes starting G1 and scratch him in pregame warm-ups.

Its the damndest thing.. back tightened up. Cant be too careful.
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:55 pm to
Agreed here
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:55 pm to
Give me 18 wins. Fine with it.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:55 pm to
Only as good as your weakest link. Fits for alot of stuff.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7823 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:57 pm to
We know teams will do this. They’ve been doing it. Find it kind of crazy teams have no faith in their ace to beat us. This is where Floyd becomes bigger than skenes.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54506 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:57 pm to
I said this over a month ago not bragging but it was obvious you pitch anyone and every available body against Skenes and save your best arms for games 2 and 3. Main problem now is our bullpen and #3 day starters get shelled or can't hit the side of a barn.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66492 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:58 pm to
If we back Floyd with our better relievers (Herring and Cooper) and give him some run support I think We can win game 2.

Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:08 pm to
Looking at our bullpen right now I'd rather them be in a super regional than a regional. Why? Because you have to play 3 games no matter what minimum in a regional. If anyone is dumb enough to concede game 1 in supers LSU can close the door in day 2. Day 3 does not favor them. But regardless, if you get Floyd's performance from other day moving forward pitching backwards isn't going to help teams. You just have to avoid that meltdown from bullpen.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:09 pm to
So in a super regional a coach is going to bank on going 2-0 against this lineup? Sure it can happen but you are playing with fire with elimination games. It’s easy to decide to do this during the regular season because you are guaranteed the third game. I’m not sure I could sleep at night knowing I lost a best 2 out of 3 series where my number 2 starter didn’t start a game.

Also the fact the last two teams LSU faced pitch backwards and conceded game one had nothing to do with the reason LSU lost the series. the strters would have lost the series against Auburn anyway and the bullpen would have lost the series against State no matter what order they did their pitching.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10544 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:17 pm to
It would take some serious stones to not throw your ace in game 1 of a super, but he laid out an example of ULL doing this in 2000 against USCe in a similar situation. Carolina starter was like 16-1 and won the first game, then the Cajuns won games 2&3 to go to Omaha. It's a very real possibility we see it again assuming we make it that far.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7789 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:22 pm to
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But regardless, if you get Floyd's performance from other day moving forward pitching backwards isn't going to help teams.

I mean it can absolutely help them, as demonstrated this past weekend.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9367 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Its the damndest thing.. back tightened up. Cant be too careful.

"Woke up with a sore back. Bad bed maybe. Hold on a sec, gotta make a call to Cincinnati."
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:38 pm to
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I mean it can absolutely help them, as demonstrated this past weekend.

The point being Floyd pitched a gem on Saturday and deserved to get a win for his efforts

It's too bad the bats were stagnant on Saturday and the bullpen shite the bed b/c LSU's #2 went head-to-head with MSU's #1 and both left the game with LSU leading
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28339 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:41 pm to
It is likely that any team that reaches a Super Regional has a good top line guy. Not Skenes good (who is?). But maybe close enough to it that he can battle long enough to keep the game close until Skenes is out. I can't foresee a scenario where an opponent would basically concede game 1 in a 3 game elimination series. Yes, LSU's bullpen is garbage. Yes, Floyd has been inconsistent. But by conceding game 1 you have no room for error with your season on the line.

For as bad as LSU has looked on Sat. & Sun the last two weeks they haven't all been blowout losses. Even with a presumed pitching advantage by holding your Ace for game two, having he and the #2 guy be nails in the opponent's home stadium is a gamble.

Auburn and MSU didn't have great pitching. There was no real risk in playing that strategy. Someone who LSU would run up against in a Super would likely have good starting pitching.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:42 pm to
LSU had cold bats that day too so you would need that to be in your favor also. While everyone shite the bed in the pen this weekend they didn't exactly use the best relief behind Floyd which you would do in a super. So, you would need cold bats and a meltdown from your best relief out of the pen to lose game 2. A regional is far more likely a meltdown in game 3 and 4 because we don't have the pitching. A regional might be harder to get out of than a super for LSU.
Posted by EauxZark Tiger
Member since Feb 2023
281 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
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If thats the case we should announce Skenes starting G1 and scratch him in pregame warm-ups.

Its the damndest thing.. back tightened up. Cant be too careful


I would bet on that game
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10200 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:57 pm to
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So in a super regional a coach is going to bank on going 2-0 against this lineup?


I don't think there is a coach in the Top 16 that would do this in the Supers.... Why would anyone concede going down 1-0 in the best 2 out of 3?

Like said above, you pitch your ace, keep it close until Skenes exits game and go after LSU's bullpen.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
465 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:02 pm to
"Find it kind of crazy teams have no faith in their ace to beat us."
Nobody's ace will be the first pitcher taken in the draft.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20988 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:33 pm to
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you can almost bank on an opponent pitching backwards to avoid losing to Skenes with their #1. Should be interesting to monitor moving forward.




I disagree with this part. There is no way that in an elimination weekend that you just chalk up game 1 as a loss. No one wants to be down a game to start.
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