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re: Hannigriff said more then once on radio how LSU didn’t handle the protest well

Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:38 pm to
Agreed... just look at all the ranked teams.... did all these teams get affected by any protests???? Some may have but had a coach that had the balls to overcome that and bring them together as a football team and shutout out those kind of distractions..... and if anything I’ve heard about Ryan Clark are true then he should be never allowed within 100 feet of any LSU player. Plus he needs his arse kicked. Yes I hope you are reading this Ryan.
Posted by KingofthePoint
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:38 pm to
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or educate them on it so they are not ignorant or naive about brainwashing spewed from the left for decades.

That is an incredibly bad idea. You might as well just disband the program because 90-95% of your players will leave.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:38 pm to
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I fricking verbatim talked about that. Try to keep up


After your comments on Dak’s whole depression thing, I don’t think you’ve earned the right to say this to anyone. You are a know it all, who doesn’t know much, but has likely been told all your life that you do.

Learn how to communicate with people, it’s not a strong trait of yours. You’re kinda a frickin a-hole, truth be told.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:38 pm to
He denied knowing about the march/protest when the team knew good and well he knew about it...that's when he "lost the team."

Saban marched with his team.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:39 pm to
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he went on Fox News and said good things about Trump.


I just can't believe our players could be that soft to be mad at the coach they all say they love for being PC on national tv

Let's just say there is something to what Hannigriff is saying....how did Gundy not lose his team?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:40 pm to
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He said kind things about both Trump and JBE. He was fighting for his players to play. Talking well about both sides on a singular issue is the meaning of not being political




Surely you can pick out the part that the players didn’t take kindly to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:40 pm to
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These kids are so soft and entitled if there is any truth to this



To all the players that may be reading this board that were upset with this and allowed it to affect your play on the field. Youre losers and you should transfer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:41 pm to
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the nick saban lead march was a total farce. it was a PR move only meant to appease the masses and make him look good.




the offseason is for recruiting

that takes being a salesman

being a salesman means selling your product and making yourself and your product look good
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:41 pm to
Fact............
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:41 pm to
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People have this completely backwards

Coach O didn’t play politics which is why the players are mad. Coach O simply wanted football so he gave positive news about the Democrat governor and Republican president in order to say football would be ok

That’s literally not being political. Then he didn’t go to the protest because that is political as well

The players are just soft as I could ever imagine if there is any truth to this. I think O has sucked this year, but if this is the crop of players he was dealing with he had no shot to have a football team worth a shite


100% truth. Orgeron is a very political guy in the social sense but not in a partisan or policy sense (outside of it affecting football). It's why he's praised JBE (and helped with the mask/COVID PR), and why he's been complimentary of the President, who is in fact a republican.

I'm critical of him but it's amazing how cowardly the fans in this thread are being, like Orgeron is supposed to be scared to do stuff to advance LSU football or honor the office of the president, just because it's a republican and the players are black. Some of yall are pussies.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Surely you can pick out the part that the players didn’t take kindly to
And that’s on the players not O

You said O “shouldn’t play politics”. He didn’t. Where you are I correct is the fact you think he got the players mad because he played politics. He got the players mad BECAUSE HE DIDNT PLAY POLITICS

The players absolutely wanted him to be political.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:42 pm to
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particularly in combination with skipping the protests


How do you skip an event you didn’t know about? Orgeron was preparing for practice when he got a phone call that his players were not coming to practice because they were protesting.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:42 pm to
We agree man. Maybe it’s a combo of having so much success last year they feel like they’ve accomplished enough too.

Idk, spitballing here.

But I have heard similar comments from people around this issue and it’s disheartening
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:42 pm to
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How fricking pathetic. Orgeron didn't go on the campaign trail with Trump. He wasn't passing out MAGA hats and forcing the team to wear them. He was simply complementary and gracious to the President for being complementary of his team. I doubt he gave two shits about it from a political standpoint. If this was a "problem" it says FAR more about the players than the coach.

i agree

everyone knows i'm anti-O but he's basically stumped for JBE previously and is almost assuredly a democrat baw

trying to turn him into some huge racist Trumpkin is insane, and anyone who believes it is completely primed to believe bullshite
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:43 pm to
All good questions. If there is truth to this then it’s pretty absurd. Kinda shooting themselves in the foot too.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68634 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:44 pm to
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People have this completely backwards

Coach O didn’t play politics which is why the players are mad. Coach O simply wanted football so he gave positive news about the Democrat governor and Republican president in order to say football would be ok

That’s literally not being political. Then he didn’t go to the protest because that is political as well

The players are just soft as I could ever imagine if there is any truth to this. I think O has sucked this year, but if this is the crop of players he was dealing with he had no shot to have a football team worth a shite

I think the problem with it boiled down to it was portrayed as something very differently than it actually was, and you had the loudest people in the room like Ryan Clark making Orgeron look bad. Most college kids are going to see what's plastered on their twitter feeds and not pay as much attention to what was actually said and look much further into it. That's how the Orgeron comments about Trump came to be cast in such a negative light. And we saw how they were received by players in that age group based on some tweets by guys like Chaisson. It was completely unfair to Orgeron, but it is what it is, and that's kind of where we are as a society now. It matters very little the context of comments, but more so how they are presented on social media and the likes. We saw the same type thing with Gundy wearing a t-shirt on a fishing trip with his sons. You pretty much have to either bend the knee, or you're not doing what you're supposed to do.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5620 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:44 pm to
It's not O's fault that Jacoby Stevens and Kardell Thomas think they are Malcolm X

Protest all you want but don't divide your locker room
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:45 pm to
You don’t know what the players were/ are thinking dipshit.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71469 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:47 pm to
Idk that I’d call O a Democrat. But he makes a damn good Louisiana sleeze when it comes to networking. It could be anyone in JBE’s seat and O would say good things about them.

But totally agree that painting O in this light is pure lunacy.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 1:47 pm to
I am completely fine with it and will support an LSU team with opposite politics as me. I know that’s likely the case and has never bothered me

I will not support a team of tyrants that try and force their coach to interject himself into their political beliefs

The coaches job is to stay out of politics and to let the players voice their message. Which is exactly what O did.
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