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re: Guice accused of rape while at LSU
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:09 am to tigre704
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:09 am to tigre704
quote:Thats why Miles isn’t really to blame here either
He (or les miles or joe alleva) is not the arbiter of what is assault and what isn't. That is the whole problem here.
The university president and board knew and was aware about this as it was between two athletes/students
At that point, it’s the job of the football coach to listen to their decision. If they tell the coach the player is good to play, not exactly sure what you want Miles to do?
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:09 am
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:11 am to Tigerlaff
It's nothing more than a money grab
Let me get in on this lawsuit
Let me get in on this lawsuit
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:11 am to tigre704
quote:
He (or les miles or joe alleva) is not the arbiter of what is assault and what isn't. That is the whole problem here.
You assume O knew about the allegations of assault. It’s possible O was addressing the locker room talk of multiple players sleeping with this guy’s girlfriend without any knowledge of the assault allegation.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:13 am to lsupride87
I'm surprised Glen Guilbeau didn't break this
He freelances for USA Today
He freelances for USA Today
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:13 am to SlidellCajun
quote:
They said he has a bad rep off the field. Women, partying etc
You just described the lifestyle of 90% of college age males
That doesn't make them all rapists
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:15 am to Ash Williams
I didn't know 90% of college males got arrested for strangulation. I guess I was lucky.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:16 am to nicholastiger
Should point out that the girl claiming to have filed a Title 9 complaint has provided no proof she actually did so.
And just happens to have filed a lawsuit in June alleging the NCAA fails to protect victims of sexual assault.
And just happens to have filed a lawsuit in June alleging the NCAA fails to protect victims of sexual assault.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:16 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Curious to see how O tries to talk his way out of this one
Do you know how many 'girlfriends' get caught banging some ballplayer after partying all night. Most don't get found out by their boyfriends, but some who do claim the sex was not consensual.
Was Guice convicted of anything? Unless and until he his, you are talking out of your arse.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:17 am to TigerFanFromBama
I'm not going to take sides until a full investigation is conducted and there is evidence, but 2 different allegations does not look good for Guice...he may be done playing professional football if true
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:17 am to tigre704
The rumor amongst the team was Guice had SEX with the other dudes gf. There was no indication of assault that O was aware of, per the article, to arbitrate. Also, what kind of punk arse man can work with another man that raped a woman in his life and sit idly by while he spreads rumors. The way the redshirt handled things would indicate consensual sex, in the eyes of Orgeron only. Don’t take that last sentence as mitigating the assault, but there is no evidence O was aware of one.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:17 am to Tigerlaff
I have followed some of the Baylor fallout and the issues stem from Title IX procedures. Coaches that know of a possible issue had to turn it in and follow up to make sure it was addressed. Those that didn’t were fired.
Obviously those in administration have to make sure the entire protocol and complete investigations are performed regardless of whether law enforcement is involved. If not you get fired.
Then it goes to court. Several of the players accused were not found to be guilty in court.
The school will still have to get rid of those who didn’t make sure the complaint was fully investigated and come up with a plan for many changes to be made going forward regardless of what happens in the courts.
Obviously those in administration have to make sure the entire protocol and complete investigations are performed regardless of whether law enforcement is involved. If not you get fired.
Then it goes to court. Several of the players accused were not found to be guilty in court.
The school will still have to get rid of those who didn’t make sure the complaint was fully investigated and come up with a plan for many changes to be made going forward regardless of what happens in the courts.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:18 am to TigerFanFromBama
The boyfriend on the team should be chastised, as well. Apparently he knew about a rape. Didn’t say anything. Coach O tried to intervene in a way that anyone would when dealing with what seemed like college students sleeping around. He STILL doesn’t say “No Coach! She was raped!”.... but “feels” like O knew the sex was not so consensual.
Get the frick out of here with that. He ought to feel ashamed.
Get the frick out of here with that. He ought to feel ashamed.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:19 am to Lester Earl
The comments read as if the talk in the locker room was that it was, in fact, consensual. Tit seems as though Guice told it that way, and the player clearly speculates what he presumed O knew.
This is almost certainly a cliche; drunk chick at a party who wakes up next to a cat that isn't her boyfriend, and claims rape. A he said/she said deal, which would explain why he was never arrested at the time. I'd be willing to bet my next paycheck on it.
This is almost certainly a cliche; drunk chick at a party who wakes up next to a cat that isn't her boyfriend, and claims rape. A he said/she said deal, which would explain why he was never arrested at the time. I'd be willing to bet my next paycheck on it.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:20 am to TigerFanFromBama
Who was the former player that dated the girl?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:21 am to Lester Earl
The first woman, who did not play "sports, said she lived in the same apartment complex as many athletes, Guice included, as a freshman in 2015-16. Early in the second semester, she hosted a party that Guice and several other football players attended."
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:22 am to TigerFanFromBama
If a woman is raped then her 1st move is to report it to the Police not to a coach or Administrator.
Neither of these two females made the effort to make a formal complaint or file charges. Now several years later these women are supposedly raped? One of them says she was extremely drunk and doesn't remember much so how does she remember exactly if she gave permission or not?
One of them says she had never met Guice but met Guice in a bar one night and he came home with her. Well that kinda sounds like she picked him up and
had a 1 night stand. Especially if she didn't file charges.
How are some of you are so quick to blast Guice for these charges when they themselves didn't think enough of the situation to file charges at the time it supposedly happened.
Whining about the school not checking into charges when they themselves didn't even contact Police is ridiculous.
Neither of these two females made the effort to make a formal complaint or file charges. Now several years later these women are supposedly raped? One of them says she was extremely drunk and doesn't remember much so how does she remember exactly if she gave permission or not?
One of them says she had never met Guice but met Guice in a bar one night and he came home with her. Well that kinda sounds like she picked him up and
had a 1 night stand. Especially if she didn't file charges.
How are some of you are so quick to blast Guice for these charges when they themselves didn't think enough of the situation to file charges at the time it supposedly happened.
Whining about the school not checking into charges when they themselves didn't even contact Police is ridiculous.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:22 am to TigerFanFromBama
Damn, so this is the character concerns during the draft. How in the hell did this stay out of the local media for so long.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:23 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:
This is almost certainly a cliche; drunk chick at a party who wakes up next to a cat that isn't her boyfriend, and claims rape.
Considering Guice just got kicked off the Redskins for domestic violence, I’ll take that bet with you all day and twice on Sunday.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:23 am to Lester Earl
If this is true LSU deserves whatever it’s got coming. I hope O said no such things. Wow.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:23 am to 314stunna
Yea, if we’re gonna run people’s names thru the mud.... who’s the mystery boyfriend in all this?? He damn sure needs to be named
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