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re: Guice accused of rape while at LSU

Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11312 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:58 pm to
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I might get my tail whipped


If you’re the cuck in this situation, Guice is destroying you. That dude has seemed unstable since day 1. Like something was always off. My thought was a closet gay or bi
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9617 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:07 pm to
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It is possible to feel bad for the victims and anger at Guice while pointing out they could have actually done something to hold him accountable...


My bad then...I miss understood.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:08 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27021 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:13 pm to
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Gun to the head...who are you believing?



Rule of thumb for me... follow the money.

Surprise surprise, there’s also a lawsuit involved here. Not one person has gone to the police from what we know, but someone has already sued... LOL.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:14 pm
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9617 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:17 pm to
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Rule of thumb for me... follow the money.


2015...I'm following College Football money.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27021 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:38 pm to
Maybe it happened, maybe it didn’t... he said she said is tough. No matter how much investigation is done at this point, There’s only 2 people that will definitively ever know the truth. And if those 2 were drunk/intoxicated, they themselves may not even know the “truth.”

I do, however, have a big problem with women claiming rape years down the road after never going to the police to begin with.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:47 pm to

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Curious to see how O tries to talk his way out of this one


quote:

5. DO NOT engage in baseless criticism of LSU athletes, coaches, administrators or recruits. Legitimate evaluation of a player's performance or a coach’s ability is allowed, but personal attacks and insults are prohibited.


Admins?
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285280 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:43 am to
You have to delete 3 years of Tigerdroppings including all the times you actually bashed Coach O If that’s the route you want to go.

That’s not even a criticism & definitely not baseless as it comes straight from the article.

Use the RA button if you have an issue & stop hi jacking this thread
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7143 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:55 am to
They need to strip him of all LSU records.

reading the article this morning from the guy from sports illustrated who wanted to write a story about him. Guice wouldn't show up for interview and texted the guy to "stay out of his life or else"


He'll be back on the street with the soggy bottom boys before long
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104795 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:58 am to
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reading the article this morning from the guy from sports illustrated who wanted to write a story about him. Guice wouldn't show up for interview and texted the guy to "stay out of his life or else"

Yeh, you got a lot of that wrong

Anyway, I think Guice is a real piece of work

But I don’t think for one single second a reporter was threatened by one of the Star college football players in the nation, and chose to sit on the text, delete it, and not right a story about it

It would have been a monumental story for that reporter
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 6:59 am
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:03 am to
Man I never got laid, you had fine girls talking bout him and Odell . Black and white

Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7143 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:14 am to
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, you got a lot of that wrong

Anyway, I think Guice is a real piece of work

But I don’t think for one single second a reporter was threatened by one of the Star college football players in the nation, and chose to sit on the text, delete it, and not right a story about it ?

It would have been a monumental story for that reporter


Why don't you call her and tell her about being wrong.

LINK
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11945 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:17 am to
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the problem is the 2 people most likely to face issues have already left. 3, if you want to include Miles

there's nobody left of any circumstance to fire

I think the fact that all these guys are gone is, legitimately, a problem for LSU. Because I don’t know that throwing your hands up and saying “they don’t work here anymore” is going to satisfy anyone.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104795 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:18 am to
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Why don't you call her and tell her about being wrong.

LINK
Why?

I simply think she is lying through her teeth.

She said the “didn’t want to be part of the story”. Yet, at first opportunity now, she mentions it so she can become part of the story

This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 7:20 am
Posted by Monkeyboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
783 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:24 am to
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One of my favorite guys, but I have a daughter in college so if true......

I have a daughter as well and if she told me she was raped first thing I'm doing is going to LSU, picking her up and taking her to the police to report it. Not sure how these lady's fathers didn't do the same thing. Also, if my daughter tells me that she was raped after she was on a combination of drugs and alcohol and then voluntarily invited a guy she didn't personally know, much less a guy from the neighborhood Guice is from, over to her apartment late at night, I'm going to let her know how irresponsible her actions were. I would still believe she was a rape victim and do everything to support her but I also believe she needs to be accountable for her own bad behavior and for putting herself in a bad situation.

Finally, these women seem to indicate that they were ashamed or scared to report the rape to the proper authorities but they have no problem whatsoever talking to a national publication about it? I'm not saying they are lying and I feel for them, but that part bugs me.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4053 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:26 am to
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2) Second girl is the potential big one. If she filed a Title IX complaint and the school did nothing thats a really bad look. BUT, once again there’s nothing in here about anyone directly involved in the football program knowing about her complaints and ignoring them.


Didn't LSU pay for counseling? That wouldn't part of a Title IX response and acknowledgement that there was awareness? You don't do that without knowing why you're doing it. There are some holes in this story.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4053 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:44 am to
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I think the fact that all these guys are gone is, legitimately, a problem for LSU. Because I don’t know that throwing your hands up and saying “they don’t work here anymore” is going to satisfy anyone.


Nothing is going to "satisfy" anyone that believes LSU did something wrong. This is an LSU PR issue now.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 7:44 am
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:11 am to
Time to change your pad young lady.
quote:

He’s never going to stop. You get that right? He has a mental illness that can only be medicated by being a contrarian on TD.com, and he doesn’t have shite else to do but argue with you.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 8:15 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
63082 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:21 am to
Nothing will satisfy the sec renters. They still upset with last season. This will be a huge waste of time and nothing will come out of it
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 8:22 am
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11945 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:23 am to
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I can defend the school and Coach O however. It sounds like nothing was pursued simply because the allegation wasn't from the alleged victim, just a 3rd party source with some vague knowledge about what happened.

The problem is that, under the Title IX rules at the time, none of this matters. Schools were required to investigate any reports of sexual assault, regardless of whether the victim filed the report and regardless of whether the victim even cooperated with the investigation.

There have been some recent changes to the rules around harassment, though I’m not sure if the rules for actual sexual assault allegations have changed. But make no mistake - if LSU received rape allegations from a third party and declined to investigate, they almost certainly violated Title IX regulations at the time. That’s a big “if” obviously. I haven’t caught up on all the news since this broke.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11945 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 8:26 am to
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Nothing is going to "satisfy" anyone that believes LSU did something wrong. This is an LSU PR issue now.

I agree for the most part. It just keeps LSU from being able to sacrifice someone (Alleva?) to the wolves and say “see, we take this seriously.”

I’m not saying I think that’s the right thing to do, nor do I agree with people that just want to see someone’s head roll. Just pointing out the reality of modern-day PR.
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