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re: Give (a little) credit where it’s due, the play calling got better…
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:02 am to 3rdRowTailgater
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:02 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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frick that. Sloan can’t even manage to get a play in on time to keep us from burning all our timeouts in the 1st quarter.
Sloan has ZERO business being the OC at the LSU level.
I said it Sunday morning - I don't think Sloan called plays after Nuss came back in. we were way to unpredictable. I would not be surprised to see Tommy Rees join LSU as a co-co-OC/PGC.
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:08 am to Rickdaddy4188
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It's the lack of push we get from interior oline...
Is it a lack of push or is it the lack of a threat from the QB to run. Hell JD5 had basically the same OL.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:18 am to ShadowTigerTX
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Nuss has to run more. Designed runs. Ad hoc runs. He has to keep it on option plays sometimes.
The defense completely ignores his threat to run, and if he runs once or twice a game, that's a trade off they're willing to make to stop the other plays.
He's not going to very often...which means the OC has to adjust his playcalling to fit the strengths of his personnel. Bad coaches try to force players to do things than can't or aren't skilled at doing. Good coaches adjust to fit the strengths of their players. Sloan never did that.
The running game approach was a lot of the same as last season. Yet, LSU didn't have a legitimate running threat at QB this season. So instead of demanding that a guy who is not a great or particularly willing runner become something he's not, how about change the approach to fit what your players do best?
Sloan wasn't outright awful relative to the rest of college football. But he wasn't good either. His play calling was often predictable. He didn't always get guys in good matchups, and the redzone offense was terrible. It's not hyperbole to think the poor redzone play calling was a big reason for the A&M and Florida losses. LSU left a lot of potential points on the board there.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:28 am to redfish99
quote:My issues are multiple. 1) why did it take until now to see some new stuff, and break some pretty glaring tendencies. 2. On D, I understand that OU is pretty poor offensively, but why the last game to see McKinley, Suggs, and Reliford with more meaningful snaps 3) defensively we obviously played a running QB with more discipline and aggressiveness, alternating spies and not spying. Why do we routinely see coaches, not just LSU coaches wait so long to implement changes in attack, changes in player utilization. Many times as fans we are seeing issues long prior to changes.
. Numerous new plays and formations. And by god we didn’t run it every 2 nd and 10.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:37 am to ChatGPT of LA
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he runs around chasing coeds.
What?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:39 am to Rickdaddy4188
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The rants breakdown of playcalling is ..... did the play get decent yards= good playcalling
Did the play not get adequate yards= bad play calling.
meh. i think most want to see at least a nice mix of east-west passes and runs and then north-south passes and runs. and to read the LOS/box/safeties and be able to do pre snap and post snap reads and exploit mismatches and take what D gives.
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but our fan base is littered with football ignorant fans that couldn't tell you the numbers on the route tree or where the techniques line up on the dline
come on man! you know most here can tell you what a 9 route is or a 1 technique.
shite most here still do not know the difference between a zone read and a RPO!
thus why this thread was made.
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This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:42 am to mwade91383
Kelly was always involved. Mubenga was a liability and when they figured out how to help, we started running it better opening up the pass.
Y’all gonna go crazy when he announces Sloan will be back as OC.
Y’all gonna go crazy when he announces Sloan will be back as OC.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:46 am to 3rdRowTailgater
I'm with this guy
We aren't getting Underwood, Sloan needs to go.
We aren't getting Underwood, Sloan needs to go.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:47 am to stein69
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The problem is that we have the wrong personnel in at critical short yardage downs even when coming out of a timeout
How do you know this? You don't.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:54 am to mwade91383
Clock management has to get better. That’s something that didn’t get better, as the season went on. Burning two time outs in the first quarter, was insane Saturday night.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:29 am to Brendoni
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Clock management has to get better.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:58 am to ChatGPT of LA
I agree the running game was a the difference. Now, that being said the jet sweep that was going to be run with Taylor on the goal line is a great call that they should have come back to. Also the snuck in Z. Thomas into a H spot and ran counter. These are the little wrinkles other schools use to get athletes wide open in space, or in a huge mismatch.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:24 am to TeamLSU
Miss has got to keep it at least twice a game. He either picks up good yardage doing so or the ends don’t crash allowing us more yards on average up the middle
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:57 am to Alt26
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Good coaches adjust to fit the strengths of their players. Sloan never did that.
There's absolutely no way for you to know this, without being in meetings and on the headset.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:09 pm to SteveLSU35
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the jet sweep
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:16 pm to Demonbengal
quote:I said a week or more ago that Nuss needed to run more. I got roasted.I'm still LOL'ing about it. Fact is, we're better when he runs for first downs instead of 3 and out. For some though, they would rather Nuss not run.
I’m more encouraged with Nuss running some
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:39 pm to kajunman
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I said a week or more ago that Nuss needed to run more. I got roasted.I'm still LOL'ing about it.
Did you?
I mean it's kind of a no brainer that he should run when he has an open field.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:47 pm to mwade91383
How did they manage to burn all three time outs in Q1?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:51 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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frick that. Sloan can’t even manage to get a play in on time to keep us from burning all our timeouts in the 1st quarter. Sloan has ZERO business being the OC at the LSU level.
frickin right. This board does a 180 so fast the second things go evenly slightly better.
Sloan has been atrocious this season and a win against Vandy and a shitty OU team makes everyone forget and assume we’re now set up for success next year.
Things need to change. If Sloan is back as OC, he’s gotta lean into Nuss not being a scrambler. More inside slants with speed guys like AA or Watkins. More jump balls with our size guys like Pimpton and Green.
Just do something that resembles you know how to use the talent you’ve been given to work with.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:55 pm to OJsLifeCoach
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More inside slants with speed guys like AA or Watkins. More jump balls with our size guys like Pimpton and Green.
I’m not defending Sloan at all—but this isn’t the answer to the offense being more efficient. You cant effectively throw in the middle of the field more without being able to run the ball. The safeties and LB’s are playing the short pass as it is.
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