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re: Fox Sports - Coach O is going to make this hard for LSU
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:57 pm to TrueTigerTale
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:57 pm to TrueTigerTale
Anyone but jimbo
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:26 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I don't see the appeal of Texas honestly. Lack of talent and unless they offer him 10 mil a year.
Are you kidding me? Texas has a lot of appeal... Money, Great players in Tx and Austin are all over the top.
However, why is everyone on his nuts about taking the UT job so much as he is from Ohio. I see him wanting Ohio State more
But come down to LSU, keep O, then O gets it when he leaves in 5 years and 1-2 titles. O understands and is promised the job which he keeps for 8-10 years until 70 years old and 2 more titles
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:54 pm to TrueTigerTale
We'll be in an interesting spot depending on how the season plays out. I could easily see two losses to Alabama and one of the other SEC West schools, and even then if the games are down to the wire and competently managed, there would probably be a real push to keep Orgeron.
I can't help but think that we'd be looking at a Bill Stewart/WVU situation if we keep Orgeron, keeping on a well-liked, native son position coach from the previous staff with a sketchy previous head coaching record.
That said, Orgeron has a strong reputation as a recruiter and will have (potentially) carried multiple teams to successful outcomes through adverse situations. There's no sure bet out there that we're going to get, and a coach with those attributes wouldn't be a bad choice necessarily.
I can't help but think that we'd be looking at a Bill Stewart/WVU situation if we keep Orgeron, keeping on a well-liked, native son position coach from the previous staff with a sketchy previous head coaching record.
That said, Orgeron has a strong reputation as a recruiter and will have (potentially) carried multiple teams to successful outcomes through adverse situations. There's no sure bet out there that we're going to get, and a coach with those attributes wouldn't be a bad choice necessarily.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:20 pm to Dead Mike
After watching his interview with the Dari Nowkhah dude on Monday, it's hard not to root for Coach O to get the job. Not only the enthusiasm, but the honesty is refreshing. He can find a permanent OC and other coaches to fill the open spots.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:37 pm to TNTigerman
all of these coaches are having an open audition right now. they are going to be busting some arse bc they know what is at stake.
season is exciting again.
season is exciting again.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:38 pm to TNTigerman
I think Coach 'O' is the perfect coach for LSU. He could win out. That's the most I've seen LSU players fired up in forever. I like that he's a native.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:48 pm to TNTigerman
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After watching his interview with the Dari Nowkhah dude on Monday, it's hard not to root for Coach O to get the job. Not only the enthusiasm, but the honesty is refreshing. He can find a permanent OC and other coaches to fill the open spots.
What we see in coach Orgeron is what we want to see in all our leaders. Refreshingly honest, a fighter, and top recruiter of talent.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:26 am to heartbreakTiger
quote:It is indeed fair to hold CEO's time at Ole Miss against him; one's performance history is always going to be considered.
no, hiring a bad coach at LSU doesn't turn us into UT for the next 10 years. Its hiring bad coach after bad coach that does that.
If Herman, Jimbo, Petrino say no thank you to our offers then you move to the tier 2 guys and coach O has the leg up on all of them.
Ole miss is clearly a mark against him, but his time since then proves the man can change. I also think Coach O is much better off at a big boy program like USC or LSU vs the fringe teams.
Rich Rod proved he can't handle the big teams and is better off at second rate programs like zona and WV where pressure isn't high.
One gripe about our previous coach was the lack, or very minimal, improvements on offense. IF CEO has taken the Ole Miss mistakes and learned from them, that has to be considered. From one point of view, which is better a coach that has struggled and decided to do differently or a coach who hasn't really had to fight a broken down team in the Big XII and then gets a ready made program where he doesn't have to do anything different, at least at first. All hindsight on Miles, we won't have that luxury with CEO or the next coach.
So the question for Alleva, IF CEO runs the table or close to running the table, is have those historical negatives for CEO been turned into positives for LSU? IF yes, and a 7-1 record, it will probably be a really hard decision.
Noting all this is in the context of whom else is available. CEO just might not control his own fate. But run the table and then he literally can point to doing Task X because of Mistake Y in the past then, again, maybe.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:52 am to Dubaitiger
Texas is atrocious right now and its a rebuild job. The off the field perks are pretty obvious. He could come in at LSU and probably win a title in a year or two with the talent already on the roster.
But, Texas will likely make it to where he can't say no so there's that.
But, Texas will likely make it to where he can't say no so there's that.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:35 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I think Coach 'O' is the perfect coach for LSU. He could win out. That's the most I've seen LSU players fired up in forever. I like that he's a native.
Orgeron has already won over LSU's players and many fans, and it's not because of his Cajun heritage.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:50 pm to Dalosaqy
I heard Bobby Hebert say years ago that Texas could pay Saban $10-15M a year, and it would be nothing for them
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:42 pm to Lucky5150
I'm not saying I think coach O is the guy, but I will look at this analytically:
He is known as one of the better recruiters in the nation. He is homegrown and could make it even harder for schools to swipe our recruits.
He lets his coaches coach. We hire some of the best position coaches and coordinators and he stated he will defer to their expertise.
He is willing to implement change and has learned from some of the best in the business. He followed the Pete Carroll model of practice to keep the players fresh. It already paid off.
He's tough but his players love him and will run through a wall for him. By contrast, Les' players loved him, but did he push them to excel?
He's loyal to the program. An outside hire may experience success and jump ship ala Saban.
We certainly need to see what's out there. Talk is that Strong is gone so I think Herman will be out of the running. Jimbo has done well at FL St and has over 10 win's per season. Fedora with USM and NC is averaging just over 8 wins. Not sure why he's a great option, but I can surely see him interested in leaving NC for LSU and the SEC. In the end if O is the choice I can understand the positives choosing him.
He is known as one of the better recruiters in the nation. He is homegrown and could make it even harder for schools to swipe our recruits.
He lets his coaches coach. We hire some of the best position coaches and coordinators and he stated he will defer to their expertise.
He is willing to implement change and has learned from some of the best in the business. He followed the Pete Carroll model of practice to keep the players fresh. It already paid off.
He's tough but his players love him and will run through a wall for him. By contrast, Les' players loved him, but did he push them to excel?
He's loyal to the program. An outside hire may experience success and jump ship ala Saban.
We certainly need to see what's out there. Talk is that Strong is gone so I think Herman will be out of the running. Jimbo has done well at FL St and has over 10 win's per season. Fedora with USM and NC is averaging just over 8 wins. Not sure why he's a great option, but I can surely see him interested in leaving NC for LSU and the SEC. In the end if O is the choice I can understand the positives choosing him.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:13 pm to BayouCowboy
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He is known as one of the better recruiters in the nation. He is homegrown and could make it even harder for schools to swipe our recruits. He lets his coaches coach. We hire some of the best position coaches and coordinators and he stated he will defer to their expertise. He is willing to implement change and has learned from some of the best in the business. He followed the Pete Carroll model of practice to keep the players fresh. It already paid off. He's tough but his players love him and will run through a wall for him. By contrast, Les' players loved him, but did he push them to excel? He's loyal to the program. An outside hire may experience success and jump ship ala Saban.
Nailed it!
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:03 pm to Lucky5150
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I heard Bobby Hebert say years ago that Texas could pay Saban $10-15M a year, and it would be nothing for them
IF LSU can win big with coach Orgeron, Louisiana also wins big because that's $15-20M it doesn't have to pay to release coaches, and hire coaches. I know LSU doesn't pay the salaries, TAF members do, but that TAF money instead could go to help LSU students and staff who are facing budget cuts.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:14 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Texas is atrocious right now and its a rebuild job. The off the field perks are pretty obvious. He could come in at LSU and probably win a title in a year or two with the talent already on the roster.
No, Texas has talent. It's a good roster. Strong had to clean house and rebuild. Whoever gets that job next year will win immediately. Plus it's an easier conference to win than the SEC.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:16 pm to Dubaitiger
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However, why is everyone on his nuts about taking the UT job so much as he is from Ohio. I see him wanting Ohio State more
Probably Bc the Ohio St job isn't open and Texas seems like a natural promotion for a successful Houston coach who spent time at Texas.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:42 pm to biglego
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Probably Bc the Ohio St job isn't open and Texas seems like a natural promotion for a successful Houston coach who spent time at Texas.
Herman isn't coming to LSU, he's going to Texas or maybe USC most likely Texas. It's either Jimbo or Coach O for LSU fans.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:52 pm to TrueTigerTale
Screw it, I want Briles over Herman.
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