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Fournette's act of charity has forced the NCAA into a position it can't defend

Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:10 am
Leonard Fournette's making moves both on and off the field. LF's move is really showing just what a fraud the NCAA really is regarding some of rules and regulations surrounding the term "student athlete". Below are just a few snippets from the article.

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Leonard Fournette made a touching announcement: He would auction off his game-worn jersey from the win to benefit South Carolina flood victims.


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This is unquestionably the right decision, whether it's meant to be an exception or a loophole interpretation. But it also raises a significant legal issue for the NCAA. Is it really about to admit Fournette's jersey has unique value?


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This is not just an LSU No. 7 jersey being auctioned off. It is a jersey that will undoubtedly be worth more money because it has Fournette's name on it. And it will prove what should already be obvious: That Fournette has value to LSU because of who he is.


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This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 10:12 am
Posted by The Truth 34
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Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:11 am to
I'd rather a white jersey.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:15 am to
frick tNCAA
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7957 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:15 am to
NCAA used to sell the #7 jersey for $90 when Tyrann and Pat wore it. Who knows how much they'd be trying to sell it for now.
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:16 am to
Good points, but does the NCAA really care? Nope. This isn't going to change a thing for student athletes.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:20 am to
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The NCAA's long-standing argument is that the names and likenesses of players have no individual value (it claimed in court that ESPN pays for the right to show football stadiums, not people playing football), and that it would be dangerous to find out whether they do.


Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:22 am to
They still sell it. Go look at lsushop.net. You can buy #7 football jerseys and #25 basketball jerseys.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 11:01 am
Posted by IrrationalMeltdown
Member since Sep 2015
208 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:25 am to
It's not for personal gain plus it's not even his property. It's a great gesture but may be more of a hassle in the end. The cost and time if setting up an auction which would have to include other items would cancel out any money made. I don't see this jersey being auctioned off by LSU to the public. It's more likely going to go to a big time booster who actually has the money to truly make a difference with a $10000+ donation to the SC disaster. You have to remember that this is not about a jersey but about helping SC and time matters. I'm sure as soon as LSU gets the legalities right with the NCAA someone's going to swoop in whis a insider and donate big to get it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:27 am to
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The cost and time if setting up an auction which would have to include other items would cancel out any money made. I don't see this jersey being auctioned off by LSU to the public. It's more likely going to go to a big time booster who actually has the money to truly make a difference with a $10000+ donation to the SC disaster. You have to remember that this is not about a jersey but about helping SC and time matters. I'm sure as soon as LSU gets the legalities right with the NCAA someone's going to swoop in whis a insider and donate big to get it.
That night, there were people on twitter putting out legit numbers... 3 tweets in it was up to 7k. This will go to the public. Has to. And it will go for way more than 10k.
Posted by Langland
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:29 am to
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Fournette's act of charity has forced the NCAA into a position it can't defend
You wanna bet? I'm no champion for the NCAA, but where would Fournette be without them and LSU football? Fournette certainly has value to LSU, but LSU certainly has value to Fournette.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:32 am to
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I'd rather a white jersey.


Why? The purple jersey would be much rarer...
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:33 am to
You can't go to the NFL for 3 years.

Players get room board, elite coaching and LSU gets money

Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:35 am to
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You wanna bet? I'm no champion for the NCAA, but where would Fournette be without them and LSU football? Fournette certainly has value to LSU, but LSU certainly has value to Fournette.


Yes indeed.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8432 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:36 am to
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(it claimed in court that ESPN pays for the right to show football stadiums, not people playing football)
What the actual frick?? ESPN should call them on it, and just air a shot of the outside of a stadium for 4hrs while the game is played.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1266 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:38 am to
Devil's advocate - People often overpay for things they know will benefit a charity, or even a political campaign for that matter ($5000 plate at a dinner). Couldn't it be argued that that is why it is fetching the price it is, that people are just using that as their vehicle of donation?
Posted by IrrationalMeltdown
Member since Sep 2015
208 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:44 am to
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That night, there were people on twitter putting out legit numbers... 3 tweets in it was up to 7k. This will go to the public. Has to. And it will go for way more than 10k.

People talk big on Twitter just like tRant but it doesn't =$

If someone offers $10000-$20000 for the jersey NOW not two or three weeks from now and LSU doesn't take it then this is not about helping people in need it's about ego and we all know LF7 isn't about ego. Everyone seems to have forgotten the whole intent of his gesture and care more for the jersey. Plus I don't see it going for more than that.

Honestly I truly hope it brings big money and does make it to auction soon but if it was given to a insider I wouldn't care either. It's not like I could afford it anyway.

All this is just speculation.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:46 am to
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This is not just an LSU No. 7 jersey being auctioned off. It is a jersey that will undoubtedly be worth more money because it has Fournette's name on it. And it will prove what should already be obvious: That Fournette has value to LSU because of who he is.


Fournette should auction of a non-LSU worn jersey for charity.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:48 am to
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That night, there were people on twitter putting out legit numbers... 3 tweets in it was up to 7k. This will go to the public. Has to. And it will go for way more than 10k.



...and what percentage of that 10K is related to the cause?

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:48 am to
I think Fournette's heart was certainly in the right place with this gesture and all he really wants to do is help others who experienced the same thing he experienced after Katrina. That said, this whole thing is going to open a huge can of worms for the NCAA. Over the last several years we've seen players suspended and/or ruled ineligible for selling their jerseys, equipment, rings, etc. Fournette is offering to do the EXACT same thing. The only difference is that he is doing so to benefit others, not necessarily himself. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that other players are going to attempt to abuse the Fournette "loophole." What's to stop them from auctioning their jersey to benefit "a church in need", or a "sick family member", or any other "tragedy" most of which pale in scope to the SC floods. How legitimate will those causes be?

For as nice a gesture as it was by Fournette, I think the NCAA has to deny his request to go through with it.

Of course the schools are benefiting greatly from the individual players while the individual players are seeing very little compensation for that benefit to the school. However, college football fans need to be careful what they wish for. Contrary to what fans think, it's not the sole dream of these kids to play for LSU, Bama, USC, etc. The schools are just the necessary means to the real end of getting to the NFL and earning millions. I would bet 90% of these kids would bypass college football if they could. You blow up the thin facade of amateurism in college football, and pretty soon college football as we know and love will start to disappear

Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6371 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:52 am to
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This is not just an LSU No. 7 jersey being auctioned off. It is a jersey that will undoubtedly be worth more money because it has Fournette's name on it. And it will prove what should already be obvious: That Fournette has value to LSU because of who he is.


That's the problem with this argument. And the one made by that kid from Ucla saying that he's the reason #30 jerseys sell. Maybe he's more right, but over the last decade there's been only two years where #7 hasn't been worn by a playmaker for LSU. Take Fournette's name off that jersey and it will still sell for a good bit of money.
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