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re: Fournette vs Boykin
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:08 am to TheSexecutioner
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:08 am to TheSexecutioner
What were Herschel Walker's and Bo Jackson's YPC averages? Go look. They won the Heisman. Mark Ingram in big games?
You don't know what you are talking about. Get out of here with that.
Fournette might average 5 ypc against Alabama. If he controls the game, runs for 150 yds on 30 carries and has 2-3 TDs and LSU wins, he will see up the Heisman. It will be over.
You don't know what you are talking about. Get out of here with that.
Fournette might average 5 ypc against Alabama. If he controls the game, runs for 150 yds on 30 carries and has 2-3 TDs and LSU wins, he will see up the Heisman. It will be over.
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:09 am to TheSexecutioner
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Figured it was common knowledge. He definitely had a good game. 5.8 yards per game is not Heisman numbers. Period.
Considering Mark Ingram had 6 games where he averaged 5.8 yards or less per carry during his Heisman year I'd say you're wrong.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:09 am to Nissanmaxima
Just another in a long line of Big 12 system Qbs that just chuck the ball around in a pass heavy offense
Bryce Petty
Collin Klein
Geno Smith
RG3
Brandon Weeden
Colt Mccoy
Sam Bradford
Graham Harrell
Chase Daniel
etc
Bryce Petty
Collin Klein
Geno Smith
RG3
Brandon Weeden
Colt Mccoy
Sam Bradford
Graham Harrell
Chase Daniel
etc
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:11 am to TheSexecutioner
Yeah let's not mention the fact that Texas Tech has one of the worst defenses in all of college football and always does where as Florida always has too level talent and strong defenses even when their team sucks.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:11 am to AlaTiger
quote:5.2 ypc in 1982
Herschel Walker'
But 5.8 (in a single game) isn't good enough.
OMG, I'm dying.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:11 am to Nissanmaxima
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Do you think TCU was trying to pad his stats last night?
Up by 30 with 7 minutes left and he was still in the game chunking it. That was pretty pathetic on TCU's part. I am glad the announcers finally mentioned that he needs to be on the sideline.
That is what Stoops did for Sam Bradford the year he won the Heisman... He beat Colt McCoy pretty much bc Mack Brown would sit him in 4th Quarters and even after UT won the head to head vs the Sooners
I hate those offenses but .. Geaux Baylor! If LF7 gets his yards vs Bama and if we win that will pretty much be the deciding factor IMO
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:12 am to AlaTiger
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What were Herschel Walker's and Bo Jackson's YPC averages? Go look. They won the Heisman. Mark Ingram in big games?
Not the same era chief. But I suspect you know that. Do you think 5.8 yards is Heisman numbers in 2015? Fournette has 7.7. Dalvin 8.2, Zeke 6.8, Melvin Gordon 7.5 last year, Chubb 7.1 last year.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:14 am to Nissanmaxima
The QB's of the throw every down variety and then run and continue to put up numbers generally struggle in the Heisman race. The key will be Boykin and getting big wins with the big games coming up. He would not be doing that against SEC defenses whose talent and the athletes they have on defense would slow him down. Plus the officials last night were horrible, PI calls, not letting West Va sub in on defense.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:14 am to TheSexecutioner
One game.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:15 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:
Do you think 5.8 yards is Heisman numbers in 2015?
Are you retarded?
the answer is yes to my question btw
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 9:15 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:16 am to MrSpock
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Considering Mark Ingram had 6 games where he averaged 5.8 yards or less per carry during his Heisman year I'd say you're wrong
You misunderstand the point. I did not say a 5.8 yards in a single game eliminates somebody from the Heisman. Fournette is a candidate because he doesn't average 5.8 yards per carry on the season. He has a much more impressive average. 7.7. The average was padded against bad teams. Of course thats expected. Nothing wrong with that or with his game against Florida. It was very good. But don't act like Fournette's Heisman campaign was launched and/or supported primarily by his game against Florida. That simply isn't the case. That game was good enough to be a nice addition to his already incredible season.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:21 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:And Guice has over 10... should he be heisman?
Dalvin 8.2, Zeke 6.8, Melvin Gordon 7.5 last year, Chubb 7.1 last year.
You really are retarded. It's the body of work, you dumbass. 7.7 ypg, 150+ in every game with multiple over 200. Sitting completely in the 4th quarter in 5 of 7 games.
Let's take away the 4th quarter stats of 66% of the games for every player in the race and see what their numbers are.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:23 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:If they were padded, why was he sitting out the 4th quarter? Facing 8-9 man fronts for 3 quarters and still getting to 200 yards isn't padding.
The average was padded against bad teams
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:24 am to ell_13
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And Guice has over 10... should he be heisman?
You really are retarded. It's the body of work, you dumbass. 7.7 ypg, 150+ in every game with multiple over 200. Sitting completely in the 4th quarter in 5 of 7 games.
Let's take away the 4th quarter stats of 66% of the games for every player in the race and see what their numbers are.
You are confused. Go back and read. Maybe you can find out where you got so confused? I didn't say it wasn't body of work or that Fournette shouldn't be in the lead. Why do you think I think that.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:26 am to Nissanmaxima
Welcome to what Boykin has done all year.....it's embarrassing.....as are the Big 12 defenses. I think Boykin is legit contender and maybe winner if they go undefeated. What matters is what he does against Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Baylor.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:27 am to TheSexecutioner
Your point is that 7.7 overall or 5.8 in a single game isn't good enough, right? And you are using arguments like weak opponents and padding.
I'm not confused. You're just the dumbest person on TD... congrats.
I'm not confused. You're just the dumbest person on TD... congrats.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:27 am to Nissanmaxima
Teams like TCU and Baylor never take their foot off the pedal. If it was anything it was Patterson trying to impress the playoff committee before next Tuesday.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:27 am to Nissanmaxima
Give Fournette an award for playing real football - you could call it something like 'The Heisman Trophy'.
Give Boykin an award for playing foot-ket ball at the pointguard-back position - you could call it something like 'the participation trophy'.
Give Boykin an award for playing foot-ket ball at the pointguard-back position - you could call it something like 'the participation trophy'.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:27 am to ell_13
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If they were padded, why was he sitting out the 4th quarter? Facing 8-9 man fronts for 3 quarters and still getting to 200 yards isn't padding.
Semantics. Use whichever word you want, but the fact of the matter is his stats benefitted from playing Eastern Michigan. Of course thats to be expected. Every team has favorable match ups on their schedule, and obviously will usually put up better stats against them. Nothing wrong with that. That's part of the reason he has video game numbers. Same as Boykin. That's my point. Why are y'all holding it against Boykin that he is putting up absurd numbers against outmatched teams when Fournette is doing the same thing so far?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:29 am to ell_13
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Your point is that 7.7 overall or 5.8 in a single game isn't good enough, right? And you are using arguments like weak opponents and padding.
I'm not confused. You're just the dumbest person on TD... congrats.
Wrong. My argument was that 5.8 overall is not enough. 7.7 definitely could be, depending on some other factors. So, yeh, thats where you were confused. It was pretty clear though. I guess you either didn't focus or don't have much talent for reading comprehension.
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