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re: For the Coach O denouncers, what does he realistically need to do (W/L) to win you back?

Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:00 pm to
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I'll say it again, last time Miles won 10 games was 2012.


10 wins 3 losses in 2013 champ.

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Miles was losing to teams like OM and Arky regularly


Miles teams lost to Ole Miss in 2008, 2009, 2013 and 2015. But the 2008 and 2015 Ole Miss teams had better records and finished higher ranked than those years Tiger teams. And the 2009 teams each won 9 games for the year and Ole Miss was ranked 3 spots below LSU in the final poll.

It sucks to lose to Ole Miss, but some of their teams were just as good, if not better than the LSU teams.

You have a point in regards to Arkansas. All the losses to Arkansas were unacceptable to me as far as the teams Miles had compared to the Arkansas teams.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30775 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:03 pm to
In 2015. That was a 10 win season for all practical purposes only to get fired he next season
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:03 pm to
The 09
And 2013 ole miss losses were both unacceptable. The clock frick up in 09 which really started with about a min left and then a retard game plan plus more clock retard shite in 2013. Ole miss was so banged up going in to the game it should have been power football on them
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3940 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Lol Les didn’t win 10 games since 2013. There ya go.

This narrative only holds up to scrutiny if you assume Les' team would've lost to McNeese State

That's incredibly improbable
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:07 pm to
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It sucks to lose to Ole Miss, but some of their teams were just as good, if not better than the LSU teams.


10 wins or not 10 wins. LSU wasn’t competing in the West. Not even finishing second behind Bama anymore. This is why he was fired.
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:07 pm to
At least 9-3.

I think with our defense, 10 wins should be the goal, though.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:24 pm to
11 maybe be 10 regular season wins
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3940 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:28 pm to
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Exactly. Then he was fired after losing two of his opening 4 games.

He wasn't really fired for that so much as it was a convenient excuse for Alleva to let him go when he wanted to do it after the A&M game the year prior. I truly believe CLM would've won the same games CEO did that year, and I believe that Alleva thought so too, and knew it would be politically difficult to fire him if he didn't take advantage of the front loaded schedule
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:37 pm to
9 wins with a W against Bama or 10 wins and an L against Bama and I’m on the wagon.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14990 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:09 pm to
If we go 9-3 and lose close while playing well this season and WIN our bowl game, I will be on board for one more year. But, in 2019, it will need to be 10-2 or better.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:11 pm to
Well, he can start by beating the shite out of Miami.

I want to see little to no mistakes. No false starts. No holding. I want to see us out physical the team.

He can start by doing that. Then, we can move on to the next task.
Posted by MrBrutus
Member since Aug 2018
215 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:15 pm to
You lie, Justice. You will shite down EVERY mile stone O makes. FU wait I g on 10 wins. We were a kicker away from 11-2 This last year. Orgeron and this staff has much more than overcame the roster deficiencies, and wiped his arse with the usurping POS shitbag Matt Canada.

So what games are you certain we lose? Put up, or GTFO of here!!
Posted by 4EverATiger12345
Member since Sep 2014
204 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:22 pm to
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but Miles wasn’t winning 10 games a year anymore.


Except that he did the year before they fired him. I count the McNeese game as a victory. Not sure why people have such terrible memory.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91112 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:26 pm to
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quote:
I'll say it again, last time Miles won 10 games was 2012.



10 wins 3 losses in 2013 champ.








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All the losses to Arkansas were unacceptable to me as far as the teams Miles had compared to the Arkansas teams.


miles had a losing record to bama, arky and ole miss combined his last 3 years
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13468 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:30 pm to
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they are not LSU Fans anymore than the Libs are Constitutionalists

Take this crap to the roaches on the poli.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73768 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:30 pm to
Exactly.


So sick of this crap when was the last time Miles won 10 games.


2015 was a 10 win season if not for a cancelled game at home. Period.

Unlike O, Miles doesn't look AT HOME to OOC opponents.

That was a very successful 10 win type of team.

And that was what 1 season prior to his firing??

So yeah, there's that and as someone else pointed out.. the 2013 season was 10 wins and 3 losses..

So that's two 10 win type of team seasons.. as well as 2011.. so basically 10 wins EVERY other season..

2010 won 11 games

So yeah.. unless I am not remembering correctly. If so, I apologize..

LSU should win 10 games this season. Period. We were averaging it every other season it appears..
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73768 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:31 pm to
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You have a point in regards to Arkansas. All the losses to Arkansas were unacceptable to me as far as the teams Miles had compared to the Arkansas teams.


Yes, to be fair, O has done well beating Arkansas, something we couldn't seem to do as consistently after playing Alabama.

This is a positive.. but Arkansas does seem to be more down these past two seasons and even fired their HC because of it.

Nonetheless, that is a positive.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73768 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:41 pm to
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10 wins or not 10 wins. LSU wasn’t competing in the West. Not even finishing second behind Bama anymore. This is why he was fired.


So less of the same should require firing as well right?

I want us to win, period.. but if we aren't even improving on win totals.. what is the point. He would need to go if he can't start getting to 10 wins. It's always going to be tough..

I still can't believe LSU doesn't have a dedicated QB coach. Heck, Alabama just hired Enos to come coach their QBs exclusively. I get Ensminger was the TE/QB coach and promoted to OC, but it just seems that position still could always use all the help it can get given the QB culture.. We shall see though.

I just want to see LSU throw the ball well and win 10+ games.

When Miles took over LSU, they had also lost like 3 games prior, and Miles immediately won 11 games his fist two seasons here and his third season he won 12, including a national championship.

But now we are settling for 9 wins. Screw that. Let's be better, okay. And cut the excuses crap out.

Florida, our SEC East permanent opponent isn't even good of late and we need to capitalize on that. It seems like we have wasted the past 2 seasons not capitalizing on a very down SEC conference.. who should only improve going forward. A&m's current recruiting in just 1 year of Jimbo is just astounding. Georgia's recruiting in years 2 and 3 of Smart is absurd. Both programs are taking from our talent grounds.. so we need to win to stay elite.

At LEAST 10 wins please.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:46 pm to
Les was finishing 3rd or worse in the west. He was justifiably fired.

And 2nd or better in the West is what should be expected from Orgeron as well.


This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
20380 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:54 pm to
NY6 bowl is a start.
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