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re: For everyone that thinks we will go 7-5 or worse, what is your reasoning?
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:07 pm to Mats86
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:07 pm to Mats86
Well 4 of our DL are on the top 10 SEC list. We have the best Wr and probably WR room in the SEC, and I’ll take brooks and foucha for Mcglothern and Jackson any day.
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:11 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Have us at around 8-4, but can see 7-5 or worse for a couple reasons
1) lack of SEC quality depth at corner, maybe on the O-line too. plus rn the current starters at corner are mostly transfers like Bernard or Garner unless im mistaken who might be unproven at this level
2) schedule. sec west aint no effin joke this year. MSU, OM, Bama, and Tenn are all good teams coming to BR, and we gotta go to the Swamp, Jordan Hare, Arkansas, and Aggie. all but Bama are beatable but I think we can lose to all of them too.
3) youth and overall chemistry. probably not a major issue but with so much of the team being bits and pieces of talent think we could see some issues in the early parts of the season as everyone gets on the same page. BK will have us running well at the end of the year but FSU and Miss St are good teams who will test us early
1) lack of SEC quality depth at corner, maybe on the O-line too. plus rn the current starters at corner are mostly transfers like Bernard or Garner unless im mistaken who might be unproven at this level
2) schedule. sec west aint no effin joke this year. MSU, OM, Bama, and Tenn are all good teams coming to BR, and we gotta go to the Swamp, Jordan Hare, Arkansas, and Aggie. all but Bama are beatable but I think we can lose to all of them too.
3) youth and overall chemistry. probably not a major issue but with so much of the team being bits and pieces of talent think we could see some issues in the early parts of the season as everyone gets on the same page. BK will have us running well at the end of the year but FSU and Miss St are good teams who will test us early
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:14 pm to talmaniandevil_25
My reasoning after a 6-6 season and total rebuild would be:
10-2 or better - would be coach of the year territory
9-3 would be great
8-4 would be good
7-5 would be ok if we were competitive and lost close games.
People have to understand the competitiveness of the league right now. Teams like Arkansas and Kentucky are much improved.
10-2 or better - would be coach of the year territory
9-3 would be great
8-4 would be good
7-5 would be ok if we were competitive and lost close games.
People have to understand the competitiveness of the league right now. Teams like Arkansas and Kentucky are much improved.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:15 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Boutte opting out
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:50 pm to ipodking
Wow! 4 games in December. That’s unique.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:58 pm to talmaniandevil_25
DL was our strength last year too. I don’t think Arkansas is competing for the SEC or anything, I just don’t see us winning that one on the road.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:27 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I'm excited about Kelly and feel he is the right coach at the right time. There are just too many overriding factors this year that have me believing this is going to be a team that struggles at times and while 7-5 is likely the floor, I wouldn't be shocked if that's where we finish.
A new offensive coordinator (huge imo), no standout QB or RB (to win more than 8 games, I need to be dead wrong here), weak at TE, average secondary and linebacker while breaking in a new defense as well is the reasoning behind the prediction. I hope to hell I am wrong, but regardless, I feel big things are coming in 2023 and beyond.
A new offensive coordinator (huge imo), no standout QB or RB (to win more than 8 games, I need to be dead wrong here), weak at TE, average secondary and linebacker while breaking in a new defense as well is the reasoning behind the prediction. I hope to hell I am wrong, but regardless, I feel big things are coming in 2023 and beyond.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:38 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I think we can go either way. I can see a 7-5 team or a surprising 9+ win team. It really depends on many unknowns and factors. We have an entirely new coaching staff, a gutted roster full of new faces, and a brutal schedule. These are all things that play against LSU because at the very least chemistry/scheme takes awhile to break in. Get off to a slow start losing to FSU and a 7-5 team seems realistic. Survive the first half before the gauntlet and improve, sky is the limit. FSU game will set the tone on the season for what way it will go.
Doesn't matter how good of a coach BK and staff are. It's asking a lot for him to be a 9+ winner on gutting a team, adding new scheme, difficult schedule, new team culture, new S&C program and an entirely new coaching staff. Nobody is a miracle worker. Saban couldn't even do that at Bama his first year.
You need everything to play out perfectly to be a 9+ winner. It can go that way but way too much unknown. How fast do the players adjust to new scheme/team culture, how fast do they mesh together, can we find a TE, do we find a QB who separates in the room, can we find a dominating RB, can the CBs prove this isn't the least talented group in 20+ years, can dline meet their sky high expectations, etc. etc.
Doesn't matter how good of a coach BK and staff are. It's asking a lot for him to be a 9+ winner on gutting a team, adding new scheme, difficult schedule, new team culture, new S&C program and an entirely new coaching staff. Nobody is a miracle worker. Saban couldn't even do that at Bama his first year.
You need everything to play out perfectly to be a 9+ winner. It can go that way but way too much unknown. How fast do the players adjust to new scheme/team culture, how fast do they mesh together, can we find a TE, do we find a QB who separates in the room, can we find a dominating RB, can the CBs prove this isn't the least talented group in 20+ years, can dline meet their sky high expectations, etc. etc.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:47 pm to talmaniandevil_25
We have a terrible AD.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:50 pm to CDawson
Scott Woodward haunts your dreams.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:53 pm to talmaniandevil_25
New coach
New system
New assistants
Young players
Tough schedule…
I hope I’m wrong but I still think 7-5
New system
New assistants
Young players
Tough schedule…
I hope I’m wrong but I still think 7-5
Posted on 7/12/22 at 10:22 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Vegas has the over / under at 6.5
That should tell you everything you need to know about how this season will go.
That should tell you everything you need to know about how this season will go.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 4:34 am
Posted on 7/12/22 at 10:22 pm to talmaniandevil_25
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I am curious because I think that we have a roster, barring significant injury, that anyone outside of Bama, Georgia, and maybe Texas A&M would be pretty satisfied with
I think 8-4. But, 7-5 is certainly in play.
From a position group standpoint, we will have advantages at WR and DL. Everywhere else, I think we will be at a disadvantage...and we will be bottom of the conference at LB, DB, and RB.
If the OL ends up being below average, that 7-5 record is definitely a possibility.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 10:28 pm to talmaniandevil_25
A lot will hinge on how good our starting QB is. That's a question mark
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:27 am to talmaniandevil_25
I have no clue how many games we win next season.... but it can't be a 10 win team, can it?
I'll tell you why the skepticism.
#1. Who is our quarterback? We don't know. Say that again. We don't know who our QB is and we don't know what the offense is going to look like.
#2. Our OLine. Did you see last year's? It was pretty bad. Will it be MUCH better this year? I'm not sure we know that yet. We had a freshman starting at LT in the spring game.
#3. Depth. We have a completely new team and last time out we had 38 available players.
#4. Schedule. It's always tough.
#5. We have a completely new coaching staff. How is that going to work out.
#6. We are 11 and 12 over the last 2 years.
I'll tell you why the skepticism.
#1. Who is our quarterback? We don't know. Say that again. We don't know who our QB is and we don't know what the offense is going to look like.
#2. Our OLine. Did you see last year's? It was pretty bad. Will it be MUCH better this year? I'm not sure we know that yet. We had a freshman starting at LT in the spring game.
#3. Depth. We have a completely new team and last time out we had 38 available players.
#4. Schedule. It's always tough.
#5. We have a completely new coaching staff. How is that going to work out.
#6. We are 11 and 12 over the last 2 years.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 am to talmaniandevil_25
I have them at 8-4, but I see the reasoning. They have a very unsettled roster, with lots of talent leaving last year. We have an unsettled QB situation. But what the purple shade crew is underestimating is that getting used to a new coach's system sometimes takes a while, and we have a rough schedule. Reasons for poor performance:
1. Even if we are optimistic about our roster, there are several in the SEC that are stronger. And our roster might be SEC average.
2. We might get good QB play, but we very well might not.
3. Our team might be as good as we hope, but even if it is, it might take 6 or 7 games before we round into form, due to a new staff and new playbooks and routines.
4. We could play well and still drop games to strong teams like Aggie, Bama and Tennessee.
Here is a scenario that could happen even if the QB play is good and our roster is good:
We drop the opener after a horrible first half. Then we drop one of MSU and Auburn. We are now 3-2. We show a lot of improvement against the Vols but lose a close one to a good team. 3-3. We beat Florida and Ole Miss, then lose to Bama. We are 5-4. We beat Arkansas and UAB, then we lose to Aggie. That's 7-5.
That would be a good performance, except for the first two losses, but those can easily be written off to not being in a groove yet, due to the new circumstances.
The tendency is to look at that and say, "No way we lose to Tennessee, MSU and FSU!" And that might be true, but how confident are we, really, that we'd win all of Ole Miss, Florida, Arkansas and Auburn?
1. Even if we are optimistic about our roster, there are several in the SEC that are stronger. And our roster might be SEC average.
2. We might get good QB play, but we very well might not.
3. Our team might be as good as we hope, but even if it is, it might take 6 or 7 games before we round into form, due to a new staff and new playbooks and routines.
4. We could play well and still drop games to strong teams like Aggie, Bama and Tennessee.
Here is a scenario that could happen even if the QB play is good and our roster is good:
We drop the opener after a horrible first half. Then we drop one of MSU and Auburn. We are now 3-2. We show a lot of improvement against the Vols but lose a close one to a good team. 3-3. We beat Florida and Ole Miss, then lose to Bama. We are 5-4. We beat Arkansas and UAB, then we lose to Aggie. That's 7-5.
That would be a good performance, except for the first two losses, but those can easily be written off to not being in a groove yet, due to the new circumstances.
The tendency is to look at that and say, "No way we lose to Tennessee, MSU and FSU!" And that might be true, but how confident are we, really, that we'd win all of Ole Miss, Florida, Arkansas and Auburn?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:48 am to deuce985
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I think we can go either way. I can see a 7-5 team or a surprising 9+ win team. It really depends on many unknowns and factors. We have an entirely new coaching staff, a gutted roster full of new faces, and a brutal schedule.
Agree with all of this. They should be competitive in all games IMO. They pretty much were last year outside the arse whipping from Kentucky of all teams, but I digress. A better coaching staff has gives reason for optimism, but we will have to wait and see how the "NIL athlete of today buys in" to staff and culture.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:08 am to moneyg
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and we will be bottom of the conference at LB, DB, and RB.
TE and corner seem like the two groups with the most issues. LBs depth isnt great but the starters are quality and RB by committee between Emery Goodwin and Cain has enough talent to make it work if the OL isn't trash
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:46 am to wheelz007
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#2. Our OLine. Did you see last year's? It was pretty bad. Will it be MUCH better this year? I'm not sure we know that yet. We had a freshman starting at LT in the spring game.
The OL was so out of shape last year it took them 6 games to show a pulse and the expected freshman starter at LT this year is more talented than any guy playing tackle for LSU last year. The transfers may be better than other returning 2021 OL, I find it very hard to believe the OL won't be better especially with Davis being on staff 1+ year vs 5 weeks last season.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:21 pm to talmaniandevil_25
QB is the biggest question for me..
Secondly.. injuries, proper adjustments and a 1st year coaching staff.
10 games are attainable and a decent bowl game win.
Secondly.. injuries, proper adjustments and a 1st year coaching staff.
10 games are attainable and a decent bowl game win.
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