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re: For everyone blaming Sloan….

Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:20 am to
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1760 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:20 am to
It's almost as if he's uncoachable as he has continued to make the same mistakes as he did 3 years ago, and continues to regress this year.

Yall ever thought of that?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89775 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:27 am to
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Jayden worked his arse off, including with a private QB coach separate from LSU. I think with Nuss lack of development any person with common sense would question how much he contributed to Jayden's success.


ah so its work ethic and private coaching that is the difference in performance and output between Nuss and JD5?

Its not athletic ability or losing the very experienced OC, playing under an inexperienced co-OC pairing that may not be working, running an offense he doesnt fit in, losing TWO NFL 1st round WRs and experiencing the ups and downs in his first season as a starter are not factors?

Nussmeir is a flawed QB and LSU is a flawed Offense with 9 games of film for DCs to study, see their tendencies, prepare game plans. Deboer said as much last night, the goal line pick was scheme baiting Nuss into a very bad throw

if you arent improving and adding to your playbook you better have dominant talent or the opponents will take away what you do well and force you into doing things you really dont want to do

Kelly has some tough decisions ahead of him about staff, scheme and personnel. We will know pretty quickly what direction we are turning schematically when the portal opens on Dec 9 and Nuss either stays or leaves or declares for the draft
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
19009 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:30 am to
Can we blame Sloan for his remedial schemes and play calling? Can we at least blame him for THAT ?????
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:34 am to
Well that guard is out and the center is just really awful, I mean he is the cause of most of the O line issues.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89775 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:42 am to
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Well that guard is out and the center is just really awful, I mean he is the cause of most of the O line issues.


its kind of wild how no one is talking about the effect of losing Dellinger and playing Mobenga in his place

DJ is just not an SEC center in my mind, too tall and too slow and not strong enough
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1587 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:47 am to
Coaching is the biggest issue. If you NEED a super mobile QB to make a prostyle offense move, then your entire scheme is garbage from the get-go. We’re seeing the problems that Daniels hid the last two years: scheme is bad, coaching is bad, and the OL is downright terrible.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17548 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:47 am to
My main issue with Sloan is the early passing game. He never seems to draw up easy throws for Nuss to get him comfortable and instead goes straight into downfield passing.

Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:49 am to
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I think our terrible offensive line limits him way more than Nuss.


Sloan is one of the reasons they are so bad. Poorly coached.

There are 2 NFL players on the line Supposedly) yet they can't run or pass block for shite.

Sloan is very unimaginative. Our predictability lets defenses be super aggressive.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89775 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:51 am to
everything Nuss threw early was high
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
14069 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:57 am to
Sloan is unimaginative and shite situational play caller, mix that in with mediocre QB play/no running game and this is the product you get
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65540 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:58 am to
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ah so its work ethic and private coaching that is the difference in performance and output between Nuss and JD5?


Neither Denbrock or Sloan are close to elite OC's which begs the question why they were hired back to back by BK at a school that never lacks for playmakers.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41369 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:01 pm to
I think Sloans 3rd down calls with these 20 yard routes are just awful. Always throwing to the flat is getting old as well. Could be Nuss’ fault as well, I am no offensive expert
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Corby
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2021
143 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:03 pm to
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What is he suppose to do about nuss’s idiotic red zone interceptions? What is Sloan suppose to do about nuss missing a wide open rb in the flat to start the game that would’ve tied the game 7-7 and instead opting for a contested throw to lacy? What is Sloan suppose to do about nuss goin for a 20 yard chunk play instead of hitting a wide open Taylor in the 3rd? What is Sloan suppose to do about Nuss being a statue and spinning himself into pressure?


Develop and emphasize a running game.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Neither Denbrock or Sloan are close to elite OC's which begs the question why they were hired back to back by BK at a school that never lacks for playmakers.


ok, I forgot JD5 worked wth his private QB coach and then called his own plays last year and lead himself to 3800yds passing yds, 40TDs, 1100yds rushing and 10TDs and the Heisman

when JD5 credited Kelly, Denbrock and Sloan with his development in his Heisman speech, JD5 was clearly lying.

Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:19 pm to
Yeah that’s just player speak for the most part.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:21 pm to
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How is the lack of a run game not on Sloan? We have 2 first RD OTs and 2 SR OGs. There is no excuse for not being able to run effectively.


Incomplete pass on first, run up the middle on second. You can literally watch linebackers and safeties crash.
Posted by PasadenaTiger
Pasadena
Member since Jul 2012
252 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:30 pm to
Sloan is a QB coach, period…..never been the man in running an offense……hasn’t studied under experienced guys or created a style of his own…just making it up as he goes….get Leger from ULL!
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10556 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:36 pm to
He's not handcuffed by the inability to run the ball, he is the reason we have no ability to run the ball.
Posted by Lsukj
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2014
146 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:42 pm to
Maybe coach him so he stops doing stupid stuff?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78327 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:46 pm to
i think the answer is that Durham jsut isn’t as healthy as we would like.

you’re best back doesn’t get 6 carries if he’s 100%
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