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re: fact is, the offense is not explosive right now

Posted on 9/9/24 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28071 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 2:17 pm to
Chris Hilton is going to open up the passing game deep once he gets healthy, however, we need to get some deep shots sent to CJ Daniels. Zay Thomas also has 4.4 something speed. We have Shelton Sampson too. Even if Watkins isn't ready yet, put him on the field a couple times a game. That alone will scare the hell out of defenses once they see his speed. You could give him some of those pop passes, screens, and just take it deep once or twice. Nuss has an arm and the kid will blow pass any DB even if they are playing 15 yards off.


This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28619 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 1:14 am to
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Nuss isn’t throwing across the middle of the field because the coaches refuse to call any pass plays across the middle. I promise you it’s not because Nuss is scared to throw over the middle. It’s because Kelly and Sloan are scared to death he’s gonna try to fit it in tight windows and get it picked off. But you can’t coach scared or we won’t win many games against good competition.


Where does crap like this come from? There is at least one route across the middle on most passing snaps. Nuss has thrown a few crossers to Taylor and had a big one to Anderson after he cleared on the other side of the field vs USC. Nuss has also thrown a couple of slants.

Just because Nuss doesn’t throw the ball on those routes as often doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Other than a handful of plays, it’s Nuss’ call who he’s throwing to, so the staff isn’t avoiding the middle of the field.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 1:16 am
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
31004 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 1:23 am to
Well so far we're just getting loaded boxes that's why we aren't running the ball well or trying to in the case of last week
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47307 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Chris Hilton is going to open up the passing game deep once he gets healthy, however, we need to get some deep shots sent to CJ Daniels. Zay Thomas also has 4.4 something speed.

Speed is certainly a factor, but it’s not the only one. The ability to sell a route is very important to getting behind the defenders.
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
1960 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 8:27 am to
quote:

We won't be explosive until we develop an effective running game. Now the opponents play two deep safeties because they don't have to come up to stop the run. No body can just run by them.


Yet nobody seems particularly effective at stopping LSU’s pass attack…
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12849 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 8:38 am to
Does anybody know when or if Kyle P will be back?
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9302 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:00 am to
quote:

fact is, austiger is a scared little girl


FIFY
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:05 am to
Nuss if good but

610 yards on 76 passes is 8 yards a pass. thats not explosive.

OP is talking about big chunk plays, long runs and deep passes that take the top off the defense.

Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7031 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

but with Hilton, Parker, and Emery all out, you've basically lost most of your explosive players with experience.


Ah. This board never fails to deliver. All of a sudden emery is our most explosive player after a few good carries against USC. Parker has done nothing yet. Even Hilton has yet to really produce. But we are screwed. Gotcha.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59511 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

but with Hilton, Parker, and Emery all out, you've basically lost most of your explosive players with experience.



Is Parker explosive? I haven't seen enough of him to see that. Hilton has always been fast, but we haven't seen a guy who is a consistent threat. And, Emery has never been consistently explosive although he had that big run in game 1.

I think the bigger issue is that we are very one dimensional and teams know that if they limit the big plays, we will have trouble (relatively) converting on 3rd down.
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3020 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:28 am to
Here's a little explosive play breakdown. All 10+ yard gains this season, and 20+ yard gains/TDs are in bold:

USC
1st Quarter

15 yard pass to Lacy
15 yard pass to Lacy
13 yard pass to Taylor
12 yard run by Williams
2nd quarter
10 yard run by Williams
11 yard pass to Zavion
12 yard pass to CJ
11 yard pass to Taylor
19 yard pass to Lacy (TD)
26 yard pass to Lacy

3rd quarter
15 yard pass to Taylor
39 yard run by Emery
10 yard run by Emery
13 yard pass to Anderson (TD)
10 yard pass to Emery
4th quarter
14 yard pass to Pimpton
41 yard pass to Anderson
12 yard pass to Zavion

18 10+ yard gains

Nicholls State
1st quarter
18 yard pass to CJ
2nd quarter
12 yard run by Nussmeier
11 yard pass to CJ
32 yard pass to Lacy (TD)
34 yard pass to CJ
26 yard pass to Anderson

12 yard pass to Zavion
3rd quarter
17 yard pass to Taylor
12 yard run by Williams
13 yard pass to Lacy
17 yard pass to Zavion
14 yard pass to Zavion
14 yard pass to Taylor
4th quarter
12 yard pass to Zavion

14 10+ yard gains
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
626 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:32 am to
Until defenses stop putting 7-8 players in the box the running game
won`t get going.This isn`t a Les Miles ,whos dick is bigger,offense.You
don`t run into stacked boxes.We will beat them by passing.
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
1855 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:41 am to
Spot on. Brian Kelly literally stated in yesterday’s press conference that Nuss checks out of runs to throw 5 yard outs when the box is stacked. This is a QB focused offense and Nuss just completed his 3rd start in which he’s thrown for 1,000 yards and 11 TDs. We need one more threat besides Lacy to step up. Lots of new people on the field and the opponents are not going to let our strength beat them. We will improve with experience. Nuss trusts Lacy and Taylor to be in the right place when he throws to them. Give it a little time everyone.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 9:43 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6792 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Nuss is 57/76 610 yards 8 TD 1 INT

It's literally just the run game that is not explosive lol
8 yards per attempt is not explosive.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13296 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:07 am to
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I understand that Nuss needs to settle the nerves and hit some deep shots,


Its not Nuss. He had not trouble hitting deep shots when Nabers and Thomas were running routes.
He has to have guys he can depend on to finish the route. So far he only has one.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:17 am to
I bet BK has had more explosive diarrhea than his current offense...

Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28619 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Speed is certainly a factor, but it’s not the only one. The ability to sell a route is very important to getting behind the defenders.


So is also being able to fight off a bump at the line and go up over a CB or Safety. Hilton is 6-0 190. That’s taller and a good bit bigger and stronger than Thomas and Anderson. That also plays a role in why he’s the bigger downfield threat.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by ATL_Tigerfan
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2022
155 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

I'll keep saying it, I want Hilton to be great. But I am also a realist. Hilton only has like 7 catches in 4 years being on campus. I'm not crowning him jackshite until he proves that he is a guy that we can depend on


This. Palmer was a burner, too.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21709 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 4:06 pm to
We are so lucky to have NUSS! Without him, this team can't win.
Posted by Jacque Itchbad
Bay Saint Louis, MS
Member since Aug 2011
63 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

We are fine.


No, we are not fine. We moved the starting safety from a struggling defense and made him the "feature" running back. We are far from fine.
I will withhold judgement on the passing game until we play a defense with a pulse.
I am all for being positive and I can see a possibility for improvement, but I see obstacles.
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