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re: Explain the balk
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:04 am to pizzathehut
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:04 am to pizzathehut
He attempted to throw to first, but the 1st baseman was half way up the line crashing in for what they thought was a bunt attempt- he wasn’t “faking” a throw to first.
Did you even watch the game?
Did you even watch the game?
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:04 am to Texastiger43
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He did actually throw it over.
Yea but 1B was halfway down the 1B line.
ETA Also he moved to the bag first and then redirected to the 1B....so the first move was a no throw to the bag.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:07 am to Purple Spoon
From a previous thread
“The pitcher wasn’t trying to pick off Beloso.
Paul said that we had the safety squeeze bunt call on. Oregon was basically trying to act like the first baseman was going to be back at the base so easy to bunt against. Paul figured they were up to something so he took off the bunt call.
Good thing because the first baseman was crashing home on that last “pick off attempt” but pitcher should have pitched that one.
It was all a cat and mouse game to make us think that it would be easy to bunt yet they were going to crash the first baseman to home for it.
The games within the game.
Glad worked out for us.”
“The pitcher wasn’t trying to pick off Beloso.
Paul said that we had the safety squeeze bunt call on. Oregon was basically trying to act like the first baseman was going to be back at the base so easy to bunt against. Paul figured they were up to something so he took off the bunt call.
Good thing because the first baseman was crashing home on that last “pick off attempt” but pitcher should have pitched that one.
It was all a cat and mouse game to make us think that it would be easy to bunt yet they were going to crash the first baseman to home for it.
The games within the game.
Glad worked out for us.”
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:09 am to tygerphan
Yep, he showed it and pulled it back so they knew we were thinking squeeze. The only reason I can think of to keep doing it is maybe to get a read on the sign. After the 10th time throwing over you could see the Catcher put his arms up like throw the damn ball home. They screwed up their own signal.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:09 am to Purple Spoon
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Not the rule but why the pitcher kept throwing to first. Beloso has not stolen a base all year.
Strategy to hide the corners crashing in to cover bunt
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:09 am to Gorilla Ball
Interesting read on it....probably a decent strategy from Oregon as well if the pitcher had got on the same page as everybody else on it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:10 am to Gorilla Ball
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Paul said that we had the safety squeeze bunt call on. Oregon was basically trying to act like the first baseman was going to be back at the base so easy to bunt against. Paul figured they were up to something so he took off the bunt call.
Good thing because the first baseman was crashing home on that last “pick off attempt” but pitcher should have pitched that one.
It was all a cat and mouse game to make us think that it would be easy to bunt yet they were going to crash the first baseman to home for it.
The games within the game.
Glad worked out for us.”
Thanks
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:11 am to Purple Spoon
the first baseman can't charge for a bunt and then the pitcher try to pick at first. the runner will see that "charge" and get a huge lead as the bag is left behind. therefore, it's a balk. now........even though the first baseman really wasn't charging for a bunt, he was creeping. so.......BALK.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:11 am to Purple Spoon
the first baseman can't charge for a bunt and then the pitcher try to pick at first. the runner will see that "charge" and get a huge lead as the bag is left behind. therefore, it's a balk. now........even though the first baseman really wasn't charging for a bunt, he was creeping. so.......BALK.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:12 am to Purple Spoon
The funniest part of this is that LSU hasn't been able to get a bunt down in a month.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:16 am to moneyg
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The funniest part of this is that LSU hasn't been able to get a bunt down in a month.
yea they definitely fricked themselves
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:17 am to lsufan31
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The strategy was to try and get Thompson to tip his hand and show bun
Or maybe it was the other way around. Maybe Thompson was showing the suicide to pull the first baseman to get the runner a bigger lead for the possible steal. The closer threw to first a bunch of times and drawing the first baseman up caused the balk…
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:18 am to chity
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Why did he keep throwing over there in the first place? There was zero base stealing threat.
Start with this premise and work backwards. Not all pickoff attempts are to try to pick the runner off and/or keep a guy from stealing. On some occasions (as it was last night) the attempt is to try to get the batter to show if he is going to bunt or swing away in situations that may call for a bunt. That's why a lot of times you will see half-assed throws to second if a runner is there with less than two out. The team in the field wants to see if the batter is going to show bunt.
Last night was a potential squeeze-play situation and Oregon kept throwing over to try to get LSU to tip their hand from pitch-to-pitch as to what they were going to to. Bunt or swing away. Unfortunately, (for them) they probably OVER-focused on that aspect and took the focus away from their pitcher. Then, someone must have missed a signal because the first baseman had left the bag to charge the (expected) bunt when the pitcher tried to throw over once more...thereby causing the balk.
The throws hand NOTHING to do with trying to keep Beloso close and/or picking him off
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:19 am to 3rdPart Tiger
Mainieri needs some credit here for putting the pressure on them. If i remember correctly LSU showed bunt first pitch and after multiple pick off “attempts” did not show bunt on the 2nd pitch. Not sure if Oregon picked up the bunt signal after that and had their defensive signals mixed up.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:25 am to tigerpawl
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Threw to an unoccupied base
1st base was occupied.
Okay, 1st base was not occupied by a defensive player.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:30 am to lsupride87
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Thompson was never going to tip his hand with any of those attempts. Thats why it didnt make any sense
Thompson was squaring on the first throw over, and did again on the first pitch. That’s why the whole thing started.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:31 am to Yaboylaroy
I thought we were going to bunt, even after it was clear they knew we were going to bunt.
With Milazzo on deck, we had to make something happen then and there.
With Milazzo on deck, we had to make something happen then and there.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:33 am to lsupride87
quote:He actually did, several times. Now whether he was intentionally doing it when it became obvious the pitcher was throwing to first is another question.
Thompson was never going to tip his hand with any of those attempts.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:34 am to Purple Spoon
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I don’t get it.
Don't give a frick. They screwed the pooch and the Tigers WON!
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:36 am to Purple Spoon
Ump legit looked pissed at the pitcher after all those stupid throws to first.... told our guys to take 2nd and home with conviction
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