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Explain the balk

Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:48 am
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:48 am
Not the rule but why the pitcher kept throwing to first. Beloso has not stolen a base all year.

We’re they trying to catch him sleeping? In that spot?

We’re they setting up a double play with the bunt?

I don’t get it.
Posted by cypTiGer
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:48 am to
Threw to an unoccupied base
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:49 am to
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Threw to an unoccupied base
1st base was occupied.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:49 am to
It was a balk for two reasons.

1. Lefty has to throw if he used the leg move.
2. You have to throw to a defended base

Since the 1st baseman came crashing, pitcher was going to balk whether he threw it or not. Miscommunication on their part.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:53 am
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:50 am to
I get why it was a balk but what is Oregon’s strategy in that position.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:50 am to
Read it last night and made sense. Either to see if Thompson would tip his hand at a bunt attempt or an attempt by Oregon to pick up on LSU’s squeeze signal.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:51 am to
They were trying to determine if the squeeze was on.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:51 am to
The defender wasn’t on 1st base when the pitcher threw over. That’s why they called it a balk. The strategy was to try and get Thompson to tip his hand and show bunt. Pitcher and 1st base, weren’t on the same page.
Posted by TDTiger225
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:52 am to
They were trying to use the throw to first to flush out the squeeze play that they thought LSU had on. It was never about trying to pick off the runner. Unfortunately, they got their signals crossed. That is why he the first baseman was crashing down towards home when the pitcher went to throw.
Posted by bloupe2
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:52 am to
The first baseman was not in the vicinity of the bag

Edit: Looks like he was near the grass playing for the bunt
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 7:55 am
Posted by pizzathehut
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:53 am to
He didn't throw to first base plus it was not a continuous move.....that how I saw it
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:55 am to
Why did he keep throwing over there in the first place? There was zero base stealing threat.

I thought they were stalling to warm up the bullpen but that proved not to be the place.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:55 am to
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He didn't throw to first base


This. I think the way I saw that was they threw over so many times to see if/when Thompson was going to square to bunt. When the balk happened the pitcher must have missed a sign or something because the corner infielders were crashing home to field the potential bunt.....the pitcher went to go to first with no one to throw to and didn't throw it...balk.
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:56 am to
The repeated pickoff attempts were to see if the squeeze play is on. However, just because a hitter shows bunt on one pitch does not mean it is on for the next pitch. Hence, the chess match is on. Not sure why he had to pick so many times, but that is why. Beloso had zero lead and the pitcher was lobbing the ball over to first so it was definitely just to see if Thompson showed bunt.
The balk occurred because Oregon had put on the crash play, guessing that Thompson was bunting, the first and third baseman crash home to either try to field the bunt in the air or get the out at home on the play. the pitcher didn’t pitch on that play, picked, but the first baseman had already crashed, it’s a balk.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 7:58 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:57 am to
quote:

why the pitcher kept throwing to first.
To keep the runner from getting a good jump, making the double play easier
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:57 am to
quote:

He didn't throw to first base plus it was not a continuous move.....that how I saw it



That was my read on it as well. He pump faked which you’re not allowed to fake a throw to first
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3254 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:58 am to
Thompson showed bunt on pitch 1 (a ball) before the balk. The Duck staff and/or player(s) just got crossed up.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 8:42 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:59 am to
quote:

why the pitcher kept throwing to first.


they were trying to see if we were bunting.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94889 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:00 am to
The throws to first were obvious and lazy though

Thompson was never going to tip his hand with any of those attempts. Thats why it didnt make any sense
Posted by Texastiger43
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
309 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:03 am to
He did actually throw it over.
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