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Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:19 pm to Godfather1
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It was a fumble. End of story.
Yep. Had he caught at 1 and hit from delpit at goalline they wouldve called it a td
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:25 pm to SammyTiger
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I dont Think he has possession of the ball wile his knee was down
Chase had more " possession" of the ball on the pass into th e end zone than did Mond as his hand was on the point of the ball. He emay have raised the knee before truly gaining possession.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:31 pm to pvilleguru
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I think they said the clock stopped the moment it hit something OOB.
If I recall correctly, they said it hit a railing or something.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:34 pm to atltiger6487
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but with a 10 second runoff, so it's a wash.
No way they basically take a sack on a downfield pass play and have everyone lined up and call the play in 10 seconds.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:37 pm to Buda
Add the play we were blowing that was a false start but then they decided it wasn’t.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:38 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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No way they basically take a sack on a downfield pass play and have everyone lined up and call the play in 10 seconds.
And get a play signaled in too...or maybe they spike it at that point, but that would have wasted their 3rd down.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:40 pm to Buda
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3) The extra second added to the clock after the spike. Probably a good call (with a caveat). The slow-mo replay showed that they snapped the ball with 1 second left. Were they all set? And were there 7 men on the line? Tough call
I still do not think they had 7 men on the LOS. To me, it looks like they had 5 men in the backfield. But that's just my opinion, fwiw.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:41 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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No way they basically take a sack on a downfield pass play and have everyone lined up and call the play in 10 seconds.
10 is pushing it but it isn’t as crazy as everyone is saying. If called correctly on the gold the whistle would have blown almost immediately. The receivers wouldn’t have been scattered all over the field as some of have tried to point out.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:43 pm to Buda
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4) The Sternberger fumble/incompletion. Very much a judgment call. The review was correct not to overturn because it was called incomplete on the field. The original call could have gone either way and, whichever way it went, the review would not have overturned. Unfortunate 50-50 call.
It was a catch and fumble at live speed, in slow motion or in reverse. No way did that look like less of a catch than the one the LSU WR clearly let hit the ground and the refs let the aTm dude run it in the end zone like it never hit the ground. They didn't blow that one dead, but blew the one dead where the dude started cruising to the end zone with the ball before being popped.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:45 pm to Dlab2013
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The rule states if spiked under 3 seconds time expires. If he did indeed get it off with ONE SECOND LEFT the game should still have been OVER
This is exactly Ed O's complaint. The ball was snapped with one second left. If you want to be very generous, you could argue 2 seconds. Either way, it was within the three seconds which, by rule, means that was the game's final play.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:45 pm to Buda
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5) The PI on Williams. Horrible call! There virtually no contact
Total bullshite call. The WR bull-rushed Williams and was totally responsible for the contact. The pass was also arguably uncatchable.
You forgot about the no-call for illegal procedure on Williams, who was obviously moving before the snap.
Also, at one point (can't remember the series) late in the game, there was a phantom procedure call on A&M that negated a TFL by LSU.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:46 pm to TigersFan64
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Also, at one point (can't remember the series) late in the game, there was a phantom procedure call on A&M that negated a TFL by LSU.
I think that was a delay of game, and it was correct
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:47 pm to Baloo
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The rule states if spiked under 3 seconds time expires. If he did indeed get it off with ONE SECOND LEFT the game should still have been OVER
This is exactly Ed O's complaint. The ball was snapped with one second left. If you want to be very generous, you could argue 2 seconds. Either way, it was within the three seconds which, by rule, means that was the game's final play.
Is the rule on the snap of the ball or on lining up?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:50 pm to Buda
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1) The interception that wasn't. Good call. Replay clearly showed his knee was down while grasping the ball. It sucks, but that was a correct call.
Problem with this play is the clock stopped. Not saying the call was wrong, but that was an unbelievably fortunate outcome for A&M, not just because the turnover was negated but they saved probably 10 seconds or more.
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3) The extra second added to the clock after the spike. Probably a good call (with a caveat). The slow-mo replay showed that they snapped the ball with 1 second left. Were they all set? And were there 7 men on the line? Tough call. I have tried to look at replays and best I can say is that they were OK. Again, tough one, but I think the call was correct.
Does college not have a rule that a play has to last at least 2 seconds? If so, a ball snapped with one second on the clock and then a spike should have ended the game.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:50 pm to MOT
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The receivers wouldn’t have been scattered all over the field as some of have tried to point out.
I don’t think this is correct. There would have been confusion about what actually happened and why the play was called dead at the very least. Nobody on the line let anyone past, nobody would have known about this “sack”. The whistle might have blown but it being so quick there is no way all 11 guys would have had the awareness that there was a live clock.
Bottom line is there is no way they have everyone lined up ready to run the exact play they ran within 10 seconds of his knee touching the ground.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:53 pm to LSUsmartass
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Also, at one point (can't remember the series) late in the game, there was a phantom procedure call on A&M that negated a TFL by LSU.
I think that was a delay of game, and it was correct
A play was called dead because it looked like an illegal shift by the FB, which they picked up the flag on.
The play was an option and we clobbered mond with Williams receiving the pitch 7 yards in the backfield. He would have gotten most of it back unless he tried to make a big play out of it, but it appeared LSU would have been better off if the play counted.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:56 pm to Buda
Sorry but that not an honest look it’s a vary Ref favorable look.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:59 pm to MOT
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10 is pushing it but it isn’t as crazy as everyone is saying. If called correctly on the gold the whistle would have blown almost immediately. The receivers wouldn’t have been scattered all over the field as some of have tried to point out.
I hear ya, but these are guys that run 4.5 40s and they get 20 yards down field in just a few seconds. And then you would have to hope they heard the whistle immediately and figured out that they needed to hurry back because they aren't looking back once the ball is snapped until they arrive to a certain point on their route. The ref has to set the ball and allow the defense time to set up too.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:06 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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And then you would have to hope they heard the whistle immediately and figured out that they needed to hurry back because they aren't looking back once the ball is snapped until they arrive to a certain point on their route. The ref has to set the ball and allow the defense time to set up too.
Exactly, all this with the clock never stopping.
There would have been a great deal of panic that they luckily didn’t need to deal with
Again, it’s not the call by itself that is irritating. It was probably the right call, but one that the refs clearly messed up on because it was reviewed and overturned. They proceeded to do us no favors for the remainder of the game. It is completely understandable how an LSU fan could be frustrated by the way things turned out.
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