re: Every knowledgeable basketball person you hear or read from

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Unless they play bad. Then we know he’s not the guy, huh

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How else is a coach supposed to be judged? Results matter. You don't get to advance to postseason play because you "looked good losing". If at the end of this season he's looking at something like two year record of 15-35 record vs. major conf. opponents it would be reasonable to objectively question if he can succeed at LSU.

Last year was awful. Worse than it should have been. This year is starting to look better. How much better remains to be seen.

As far as basketball acumen, McMahon is by far and away better than Wade. We play good fundamental basketball. Wade doesn’t understand basic defensive concepts. We would have never made a deep run in the NCAA tournament with Wade. McMahon just doesn’t have the talent.

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As far as basketball acumen, McMahon is by far and away better than Wade. We play good fundamental basketball. Wade doesn’t understand basic defensive concepts. We would have never made a deep run in the NCAA tournament with Wade. McMahon just doesn’t have the talent.

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Ah yes, the good ol’ street ball nonsense.

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Ah yes, the good ol’ street ball nonsense.

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That NEVER has any actual substance to back the allegations. As if Wade somehow just got a bunch of good players, rolled out the basketball, and got out of the way.

I would agree that the Achilles heel of Wade's teams were on the defensive end...until his final season when LSU was a top 5 defensive team nationally (#1 for much of the year). Wade's teams were also (except for his final season) elite offensive teams. That, again, doesn't just happen simply because you have good players. For being such a "great x's and o's" coach, McMahon's teams (especially this one) have been awful at holding on the the ball. Bottom 1/3 of the country in turnovers per possession both years to date.

The reality is Wade's success is not simply a result of having better players than everyone else. If it were, he would be getting trucked at McNeese right now. The guy could coach. Just because you may not understand the game of basketball at a detailed level (which most people don't) doesn't mean the x's and o's were deficient. On the flip side it still takes talent to make the x's and o's work. And McMahon hasn't had as much as Wade did at LSU.

Once you get to this level of coaching everybody understands the x's and o's. I can tell you that by game 6 or 7 of SEC play when a coach yells out for a set play during the action the opponent has a good idea of what's coming. The good coaches though, in addition to having good players, know how to adjust and counter on the fly as to what is going on. It's not like football and basketball where there are delays between each sequence of action. Basketball is a lot of perpetual motion where adjustments, on both sides of the ball, are constantly being made on the fly.

When you see comments like that you know the poster doesn’t actually watch the games.

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If we win the next two SEC games, he is staying, IMO.

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I believe this is correct.

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He was never leaving this year

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I think he could have been gone after this year in the right situation but I think we are past that now.

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He’s showing that he can prepare and scheme a marginally talented team and win n this league. Recruiting will make him or break him.

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I think you are right.

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He’s a really good guy

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Agreed but that is not what the length of his tenure will ultimately be based on.

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and I think he succeeds

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I hope he does as should every fan. I do think he can.

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Last year was awful. Worse than it should have been.

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I agree that 2 SEC wins was terrible, but I do also think the preseason projection of us finishing mid conference and on the NCAAT bubble was a terrible prediction. I think it was largely based on unfounded hype for Adam Miller and a hope that Juice Hill and Trae Hannibal would be bigger contributors. KJ was billed as an all conference player (which he was obviously), but it's unreasonable to expect your best player to have to drop 30 and 10 just to have a close game.

Talent wise that team last year was FAR worse than our current team. Mentally speaking that team was filled with quitters who gave hardly any effort. Juice Hill and Kendal Coleman are probably the worst players I've had the displeasure of watching suit up for LSU. Justice Williams wasn't much better either.

Xs and Os wise we ran plenty of plays to get Adam Miller open shots, he just couldn't convert. Cam Hayes would get open and show flashes, but he couldn't regularly execute. I do think McMahon also should have played Tyrell and Shawn more, don't really know why he didn't. Also rotationally speaking starting Cam Hayes at SF was terrible but I do think it was more so out of need than out of desire especially with Mwani being injured (I don't think he's nearly the same player since his injury unfortunately).

Long story short I think that roster was dogshit and the locker room wasn't bought in and no matter what we weren't sniffing an NCAAT or NIT

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i wonder if any of them have looked at his ASU box scores

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Wha? He is averaging 13.3 a game a few games back with 3 rebounds a game. Pretty good shooting percentage and 3 point percentage. Weird flex

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Says McMahon is a good basketball coach. Maybe he is?

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That is irrelevant, he is boring that is all that matters and Wade is a gangster.

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I still think he’s either Wade’s lawyer or lover. Go Tigers.

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i often wondered if wil was a salad tosser…