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re: Eric Reid takes a knee....on Veterans Day weekend
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:52 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:52 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Without the the things on the list, the flag represents little.
You can't just take back what a symbol represents. The swastika can't just become a symbol for piece and diversity because someone said so.
Whether that symbol is being instantiated is a completely different argument then whether or not the flag is important, which, again, many seem to say it is.
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:52 pm to Azkiger
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So long as they're burning flags and not tiki torches in Charlottesville, right?
What are you babbling about?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:58 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Many of the same people who defend flag burning think that "hate speech" is a real thing and isnt protected under the first amendment.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:59 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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These are the things our brave men and women in uniform fight for, not the flag.
The flag is a visual representation of all of these ideals and principles you ignorant fk.
good lord!
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:02 pm to HurricaneTiger
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The swastika can't just become a symbol for piece and diversity because someone said so.
You are aware the swastika originally represented peace?
It wasn’t until someone came along and perverted it to start a world war and kill six million Jews.
Probably the best cautionary tale of all time of why not to fall in love with things like flags.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:02 pm to RedTigerRulz
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you ignorant fk.
Dude, if you want other people to listen to you, you've got to cut that part out of the message. This coming from someone who agrees with the stuff prior.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:02 pm to RedTigerRulz
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The flag is a visual representation of all of these ideals and principles you ignorant fk.
good lord!
Yes, but it is also a visual representation of the government, in respect of which we have a right to protest, including by burning or otherwise disrespecting that visual representation. This is all settled law and social mores, so I'm not sure what y'all are arguing.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:04 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Probably the best cautionary tale of all time of why not to fall in love with things like flags
Yep no way Hitler rises to power and commits all those atrocities without the swastika flag...
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:05 pm to HurricaneTiger
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Dude, if you want other people to listen to you, you've got to cut that part out of the message. This coming from someone who agrees with the stuff prior.
point taken
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:06 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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You are aware the swastika originally represented peace?
That's a different symbol altogether, even if they are very similar. The first is an upright "swastika" that was and is still used to represent holy places and temples. The other is for the 3rd Reich. That first symbol is still on maps today. Finding a swastika requires looking through a history book.
See, saying something about a symbol is much different to what that symbol actually means
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:08 pm to HurricaneTiger
That’s some thick semantics you got working there
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:08 pm to Mo Jeaux
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in respect of which we have a right to protest, including by burning or otherwise disrespecting that visual representation.
sure in front of the white house or congressional building....not at a football game. If these guys were as passionate about their beliefs as they claim, they would take it a step further rather than just acting like an azz on national TV.
Its all bluster to get attention.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:09 pm to Mo Jeaux
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...so I'm not sure what y'all are arguing.
We're arguing that the flag is more than the dye and fabric that make it up, it's a symbol for something.
The fact that you can legally burn it doesn't take away the fact that the flag represents something.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:14 pm to RedTigerRulz
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If these guys were as passionate about their beliefs as they claim, they would take it a step further rather than just acting like an azz on national TV.
Its all bluster to get attention.
I don't really disagree with any of this.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:15 pm to Azkiger
Wait...has this STILL not been anchored? Look, I took part in this shitshow yesterday, but holy crap...who's asleep at the wheel here?
This has nothing to do with a current LSU player, and is 99% politics.
So sure...a 33 page screed on the front page of the rant makes sense.
This has nothing to do with a current LSU player, and is 99% politics.
So sure...a 33 page screed on the front page of the rant makes sense.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:17 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Wait...has this STILL not been anchored? Look, I took part in this shitshow yesterday, but holy crap...who's asleep at the wheel here?
amazing isn't it?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:32 pm to RedTigerRulz
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amazing isn't it?
All it would take is a handbra...and suddenly...
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:37 pm to Azkiger
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Yep no way Hitler rises to power and commits all those atrocities without the swastika flag...
So, symbols don’t mean anything now?
Which is it?
You see the faulty logic here I hope
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:46 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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So, symbols don’t mean anything now?
No they do, but you were blaming the flag itself instead of the message behind it.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:56 pm to Azkiger
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No they do, but you were blaming the flag itself instead of the message behind it.
My ultimate point is there’s nothing stopping some elected leader here in America from trying to fuse the military and the flag to himself and using it for nefarious purposes.
We should be vigilant about shite like that.
What was done with the swastika is a great example.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 4:03 pm
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