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re: Ensminger: "I have no ego. I want help.”

Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:55 pm to
Me too, Jack
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:09 pm to
SE is all LSU all the time.

Really like this dude.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38007 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Read between the lines. This is clearly Joe Brady’s show. They aren’t practicing his plays to not use.

And If he has the next play ready, that is the play. Lol. This isn’t hard to understand


Look that's fine. This just wreaks of things like Malvetto. I just see so few top programs doing things like this. Not a good look. Of course it COULD work, but the risk and the likelihood might say otherwise.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:09 pm to
The issue with Malvetto was that neither of them should have been DC
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38007 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:12 pm to
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O lives in your tiny little brain.


Why the unnecessary insult? Is that all you got?

Way to deal with facts and actually address O's "hire the best" story. And his offensive plans. And the results against Bama. Good talk.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38007 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:13 pm to
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The issue with Malvetto was that neither of them should have been DC




I mean the same can be said for Ensminger....and probably Brady just due to lack of experience.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:19 pm to
Props to ensminger for not being good enough to do his job and lsu having to hire someone to do it for him while still paying him the same salary? Weird props
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:45 pm to
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Props to ensminger for not being good enough to do his job and lsu having to hire someone to do it for him while still paying him the same salary? Weird props

Ensminger didn't want the job and was pressured into it. He deserves credit for acknowledging that he's in over his head. Would you volunteer for a pay cut if you suck at the job that you never wanted in the first place?

If you want to blame someone for LSU having to hire another assistant to help the OC do his job, blame the man that made the mistake of putting Ensminger in that position to begin with.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:03 am to
Considering he has scored 0 points against Bama in 8 quarters, he should have 0 ego.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
97934 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:06 am to
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SE is all LSU all the time.

Really like this dude

Regardless of how good of a coordinator is still is or turns out to be, I don't see how anyone can say a bad thing about Steve Ensminger the man. The guy obviously loves LSU and a lot of us have been saying we don't think that he would let his ego get in the way with Brady coming aboard from the get go. Coach E is an all time great Tiger and I can think of nothing better than for him to help a great young coach like Brady become a coordinator as E starts to get towards the end of his career.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:09 am to
AGREED... Some just look for something to bitch about.... its really sad...........
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80110 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:32 am to
Thats who im blaming dude, the guy who makes these decisions. With that said, ensminger shouldve known this could happen when he accepted the job. I dont feel sorry, nor do i think he should be commended for his failure. He may have been convinced, but he didnt have to take the job. And he couldve asked to go back to his old position and accept his paycut.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:57 am to
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Only idiots think they can't learn something new and apply it.


Damn strong team
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
7578 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:05 pm to
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he couldve asked to go back to his old position

Maybe he did and O shot it down with the understanding that he'd hire someone else to help run the offense, to avoid the backlash of changing OC yet again. Happy medium.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Maybe he did and O shot it down with the understanding that he'd hire someone else to help run the offense

So let's put this whole process into words to get some perspective.

1. The head coach hires an aging TE coach with no recent history (much less success) as an OC... as his OC.

2. After a season of piddling to bad offense, this aging OC tells the head coach that he no longer wants the OC job.

3. The head coach then says, no, you need to stay on as OC, but I will bring in someone to assist.

4. To assist the OC, the head coach brings in a young assistant whose entire resume consists of two years as a GA and two years as a low-level NFL assistant, and no experience whatsoever calling plays at any level, installing an offense, coordinating, or coaching a position.

5. The head coach therefore entrusts his offense, the known weak point of his program and the entire reason his predecessor was fired, with an aging mediocre (at best) OC who doesn't want the job and a young inexperienced assistant.

In what realm would any LSU fan willingly sign up for that?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:24 pm to
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So let's put this whole process into words to get some perspective.

1. The head coach hires an aging TE coach with no recent history (much less success) as an OC... as his OC.

2. After a season of piddling to bad offense, this aging OC tells the head coach that he no longer wants the OC job.

3. The head coach then says, no, you need to stay on as OC, but I will bring in someone to assist.

4. To assist the OC, the head coach brings in a young assistant whose entire resume consists of two years as a GA and two years as a low-level NFL assistant, and no experience whatsoever calling plays at any level, installing an offense, coordinating, or coaching a position.

5. The head coach therefore entrusts his offense, the known weak point of his program and the entire reason his predecessor was fired, with an aging mediocre (at best) OC who doesn't want the job and a young inexperienced assistant.

In what realm would any LSU fan willingly sign up for that?


I mean...it sucks reading it like that, but if the suggestion is Ensminger didn't want the job, what else is the alternative?

How it's being spun as Orgeron being different from Miles because he'll adapt rather than as his third attempt in three seasons to decide on a fricking offensive scheme is beyond me.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:26 pm to
I think it all goes back to O hiring E as the OC in 2018. It was a bad move then and is still a bad move, at least on paper until the season starts. For the love of God I hope I'm wrong because I fear the wheels falling off the offense will affect recruiting and that is the live blood to sustain a program in the long term.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11272 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:29 pm to
We will see this year if it works. If the offense costs the team 3+ games during this season, I can’t see how this experiment isn’t ended, at least on the offensive side.

I think that outcome would at least force Ensminger to retire and O to bring in a proven elite OC replacement.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:32 pm to
Look, if the offense fails again, I have no idea how Woodward could allow O to stick around and make yet another OC hire.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78899 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:32 pm to
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Admitting that and addressing it is refreshing in comparison to a certain mentality we lived with for a decade.


Why did they hire Ensminger? Why not just let Brady be the OC? Or one that didn't have to use cam Cameron's playbook because he can't figure this out on his own?
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