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re: Ensminger: "I have no ego. I want help.”

Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:02 pm to
You want to wait & see or do you want to hate on it?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Steve is almost ready to retire and in a year or two when he does Brady will be there to take over. How is that so far above your head that you can't grasp it? Not just your head. There's about 10 posters here that can't grasp the concept of grooming your replacement for when you hang it up.
I have no problem with a great, capable, OC grooming his replacement. I have a problem with the TE coach of Les Miles' broke dick offense grooming a guy with less than 5 years of coaching experience to become the OC in the next 1 to 2 years.

It cracks me up. LSU fans love to bitch and moan about how they make in house hires, but in the moment they applaud the hires telling themselves it is actually going to work out this time.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:05 pm to
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propaganda machine says the taysom hills plays were all him! He traded those plays for sean's secrets of the screen game

Buckeye Jeaux swore that he was brought in to make plays specifically for Taysom Hill... only Brady was hired as an analyst before the Saints got Hill off waivers.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:06 pm to
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I have a problem with the TE coach of Les Miles' broke dick offense grooming a guy with less than 5 years of coaching experience to become the OC in the next 1 to 2 years.


Ensminger is widely considered to be a great playcaller and that’s mainly what he will be teaching Brady.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:07 pm to
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Every off season is filled with these grandiose promises that never come to pass


He's shown a clear pattern of improvement. So, they are indeed coming to pass.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:08 pm to
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He's shown a clear pattern of improvement

Who?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:22 pm to
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A smart head coach goes out and hires an OC with experience in the offense he wants to run. He doesn’t bank on a GA teaching it to his elderly OC unfamiliar with the concepts.
Well, let's just see how it all works out. I'm betting on O/E/Brady.

Ramone, did it ever occur to you that Orgeron might have 100-times the football chops that you have?
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Ramone, did it ever occur to you that Orgeron might have 100-times the football chops that you have?

Is it more apt to compare O to a random message board poster or to other Top 25 head coaches?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Ramone, did it ever occur to you that Orgeron might have 100-times the football chops that you have?



Well if he were coaching against message board members then he'd have 3 NCs by now.

As it turns out, he's coaching against Mullen, Saban and Jimbo. I care about his coaching chops relative to those guys.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11642 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Ensminger is widely considered to be a great playcaller 
By whom? I'll give it to E that he is good at scripting the first few drives of the game. But after that everything just seems to fall apart. This was evident in many games last year. LSU's offense would seemingly disappear around midway through the second quarter.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39597 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:29 pm to
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So it isn't like Brady help the saints with all these new spread concepts. 
 

I didn't say anything remotely close to this.


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By the time LSU got Aranda, he was considered as one of the best up and coming DC's in the nation, and he had proved it with Wisconsin. In his three years at Wisconsin, they had a top 20 total defense each year, with top five performances in individual categories such as scoring defense.


I stated that I liked the hire. Most people did. There were a few who were put off by him being from the "BIG SLOW" (so his "stats" were allegedly skewed by the "weaker / slower" competition), but it was a small group. He has been under fire on occasion on this board at times (Moo State, A&M etc.), but most of those posters are typically reactionary types.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39597 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:35 pm to
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But after that everything just seems to fall apart. This was evident in many games last year. 


We had major o line issues,last year. You can only hide that for so long from week to week. The coaches for the other team gets paid as well. Judging this stuff in a vacuum and dismissing influential factors makes no sense to me. This season, we should have more experience, be healthier (we were really banged up last season), and deeper in our rotation. If the o -line stays healthy and doesn't improve, then MAJOR changes need to be made imho.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Is it more apt to compare O to a random message board poster or to other Top 25 head coaches?

Yes. Unfair comparison.

O probably has 100,000 times the football chops of Ramone and Goldy combined.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18920 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:36 pm to
I like this. If I recall Ensminger did not want the job. If Brady works out, he can transition in seamlessly. If not, we are attached to him as an OC. I hope they click and figure it out, and we torch the SEC.

We comin baby.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11642 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:40 pm to
Right, but there was a huge difference in experience/resume in the Aranda hire vs the Brady hire. There was still a chance Aranda wasn't going to work out, but at least he had shown he was capable of putting together a top rated squad. Brady hasn't shown he can put together anything, and people are okay with him being groomed to be the future OC by a guy who was Less Miles' TE coach.

On a yearly basis LSU has to compete with offenses coached by Mullen, Gus, Moorehead, Saban, and Fisher(4 of the 5 coach a Heisman winner), and some LSU fans are okay with a Ensminger/Brady combo. It blows my mind.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160400 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:46 pm to
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You want to wait & see or do you want to hate on it?


why would I want to hate on it?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160400 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:47 pm to
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Ensminger is widely considered to be a great playcaller
no...no he isn't. The rant just adopted this as fact. Just like the "he's a genius offensive mind, just hasn't wanted to be an OC!" mantra
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284890 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:50 pm to
You’ve been hating the last 3 pages, you tell me
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
97936 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:51 pm to
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The pain has been so overwhelming that I haven't been able to get my thoughts together to form some kind of coherent post.

I hate to be the one to suggest abusing the medicine, but snorting or chewing should at least release all if the medicine at once if you feel like you need to do it.
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Eating is excruciating and I'm going to have to figure something out moving forward that maybe I just eat early in the morning.

I would suggest smoothies. They're easy to make at home and I would gladly give you some suggestions if you want to make a thread on the Food and Drink board. If you're stomach is upset, try to stay away from milk in the smoothies which is what SK uses. Simple things like Banana, Peanut Butter and Vanilla Whey protein is delicious and filling.
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I don't want to seem like I'm complaining though.

You will never have to feel bad for this with me, brother.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73635 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 12:52 pm to
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no...no he isn't. The rant just adopted this as fact. Just like the "he's a genius offensive mind, just hasn't wanted to be an OC!" mantra


This myth was born after the Mizzou game the week after Miles was fired.

Once Ensminger called a play where we passed to the TE, he suddenly became a great playcalled.

Let's just disregard that he had been on multiple staffs over the years and two of his best friends in coaching (Tuberville and Miles) didn't let him call plays and that he hadn't been a full time coordinator in two decades prior to last season, even at the high school level.
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