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re: Ensminger called “bullshite” on those that said he wouldn’t get it done

Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:00 pm to
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Ensminger, in and of his sole leadership really did not “get it done”. Until Joe Brady, what did SE really accomplish? 

2018 was Ensminger's first full season as an OC in 20 years and he had a starting quarterback that didnt spend much of the offseason with the team, a patchwork offensive line, very little experience in the unit as a whole, and a receiving corps with a 9% drop rate.

I just think its interesting that many of you think a low level Saints assistant came in and built the greatest college football offense ever by himself in one offseason despite only calling a small percentage of the plays.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:03 pm to
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I just think its interesting that many of you think a low level Saints assistant came in and built the greatest college football offense ever by himself in one offseason despite only calling a small percentage of the plays.


Its amazing you think a guy spend a whole season with a shitty playbook and then decided to make a good one.

Our scheme was bad in 2018. If you can't look at the two offenses and not see a clear fundamental difference youre a moron.

and this isn't made up, I posted a quote to joe saying they changed the offense.

If Ensminger had it in him to make the 2019 offense in 2018, he would have. He didn't

Posted by Utah Tiger
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:09 pm to
The way I look at it is that LSU gave Joe Brady a jump in salary from $85K with the Saints to $435K at LSU. Then Steve Ensminger helped him get a job in the NFL and become a millionaire.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:18 pm to
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Its amazing you think a guy spend a whole season with a shitty playbook and then decided to make a good one. 



His quarterback wasnt even with the team for much of the offseason, we really dont know what kind of system Ensminger would've ran because its likely they were very vanilla because of inexperience throughout the unit.

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If Ensminger had it in him to make the 2019 offense in 2018, he would have. He didn't 


Because its that easy.

You seem ignorant, have you ever played football at a level higher than high school?
Posted by Batman Chalupa
Member since Feb 2020
387 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:24 pm to
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If it weren’t for Brady bringing the offense we would have not have won the championship!! Period!!


Why are people downvoting your post? I’d say the above statement is absolutely correct.

The people who downplay Brady’s significance are ignorant. Brady made that offense what it was by designing it and then installing it. Kudos to Ensminger for being open minded to the scheme Brady brought and installed. It was incredible
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:30 pm to
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The people who downplay Brady’s significance are ignorant. Brady made that offense what it was by designing it and then installing it. 


My comment stands:

I just think its interesting that many of you think a low level Saints assistant came in and built the greatest college football offense ever by himself in one offseason despite only calling a small percentage of the plays.

Brady brought in the RPO concepts and a lot of the bunch routes. He called plays in the redzone and on 3rd down and excelled at it.

It wasnt all him though, if he's such a miracle worker why not throw $3 million dollars a year at him and name him OC and associate head coach?
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:33 pm to
Here is what Ensminger deserves:


I will say the cupboard was LOADED for sure so his promise was not only prophetic but also very reasonable. Big "E" has been around the block and he also knew Burrow and the guys on the 2019 roster were all something special. Add a few coaching ingredients to the mix and you have another natty for our Tigers!

Ensminger pulls anything out of his coaching hat close to this again w/o Brady and he will go down as the best offensive coordinator in LSU history - NO matter how long he continues to coach. Major props to him as a person for keeping the noise out. Looking forward to our NEXT football season. Geaux Tigers!

Posted by Batman Chalupa
Member since Feb 2020
387 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:33 pm to
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Ensminger was the genius behind that run last year. Brady gets the credit but those that have watched a lot of football know Big E was the man.


Uh, what?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:38 pm to
Everyone wants to say it was "all Brady" or "all Ensminger" when it was clearly two guys working together as a team, each doing what they did best.

It remains to be seen if Linehan and E will have the same chemistry but you have to like the experience Linehan brings.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:48 pm to
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His quarterback wasnt even with the team for much of the offseason, we really dont know what kind of system Ensminger would've ran because its likely they were very vanilla because of inexperience throughout the unit.


Burrow has said that the offense we ran this year is more like the offense he’s run his whole life. Ensminger made the choice to stick him under center for the first time since middle school.

If this was an excuse he did nothing to make it easier on Joe.

And no one s
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Because its that easy. You seem ignorant, have you ever played football at a level higher than high school?


No one said it was easy but he was paid hundred of thousands of dollars to do it.

“It’s hard” isn’t a excuse.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:56 pm to
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Ensminger made the choice to stick him under center for the first time since middle school.


If college and professional players aren’t expected to learn anything new since their middle school days then football would be very different than what it is.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:59 pm to
CSE is as great a Tiger as there's been
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:01 pm to
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If college and professional players aren’t expected to learn anything new since their middle school days then football would be very different than what it is.


You want to have your cake and eat it too.

It’s bad coaching to take a player without a spring camp and throw him into positions he isn’t familiar with.

You can’t excuse our shitty offense with Joe being unfamiliar with it when E did nothing to make The offense fit Joe

You can’t have your cake and eat it too
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278287 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:04 pm to
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college and professional players aren’t expected to learn anything new since their middle school days then football would be very different than what it is.



That makes no sense
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:04 pm to
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You want to have your cake and eat it too. It’s bad coaching to take a player without a spring camp and throw him into positions he isn’t familiar with. You can’t excuse our shitty offense with Joe being unfamiliar with it when E did nothing to make The offense fit Joe You can’t have your cake and eat it too


Who’s having their cake and eating it too? LSU predominately ran 3-wide shotgun (The spread) in 2018. The narrative that 2018 was a continuation of Les’s offenses is categorically false.

In fact, if you watch the last three games of 2018 you see a lot of what 2019 brought.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:06 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Ensminger made the choice to stick him under center for the first time since middle school. 



You obviously didnt watch LSU much in 2018.

quote:

E did nothing to make The offense fit Joe 


They had no chemistry with each other, they barely knew one another.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:09 pm to
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They had no chemistry with each other, they barely knew one another.


Burrow is quoted as saying he didn’t know everyone on offense’s names during the Miami game.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:14 pm to
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Who’s having their cake and eating it too? LSU predominately ran 3-wide shotgun (The spread) in 2018. The narrative that 2018 was a continuation of Les’s offenses is categorically false.


We ran a lot of shotgun. It we should t have been running ANYTHING under center

We also ran more undercenter early in the season which makes no sense.
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In fact, if you watch the last three games of 2018 you see a lot of what 2019 brought.


No you don’t.

That’s surface level bullshite

You don’t see RBs going out wide you don’t see 5 wide sets.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:18 pm to
He’s also quoted as saying the 2019 offense was totally different and he hasn’t been under center since middle school.

The point is the offense sucked in 2018.

It was trash.

Objectively bad. Don’t try and sugar coat it.

E didn’t
O didn’t

They went out and hired a guy to help them. Let’s not pretend that didn’t happen
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:19 pm to
Here's an interesting article regarding what Ensminger was trying to do in 2018, although a full transfer over to the spread wasnt possible because they didnt have the personel.

2018 was only Ensminger's first season as full time OC and he had a very inexperienced unit and a quarterback that wasnt with the team for much of the offseason.

Some of you forget that Miles recruited for a run first offense, at one point in 2017 we had 8 fullbacks and 7 scholarship receivers.

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