re: Educate me on rules

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It was odd for the officials to check the replay. It seems like that should have been a challenge flag kind of play.

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That's what chaps my arse... they wouldn't have reviewed it if was Bama!

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Unfortunately it was the correct call.

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Not really. There needs to be clear and indisputable evidence that he gave himself up before the first down marker.

While the replay rules say that “generally happens when the butt begins to drop”, it needs to be assumed that the call on the field is correct. He did not intend to give himself up before the first down marker, nor did he need to. The “butt dropping” is a guideline to establish this, but the rule is “obviously starts a feet first slide.”

What they did in review is not a practical precedent - there is no way to call a slide correctly on the field. A ball carrier would always need 2+ yards to initiate a slide, and the defender would have ZERO margin for error in making contact.

And to clear up confusion, this has always been the rule. The only change was the “fake slide” could be called down during play. The call has always been to protect the runner. Using it to penalize or otherwise question their forward progress in a way not possible in real time is not the intention of this rule or the replay process.

And this is why officiating has gotten so out of control - they are handpicking plays right in front of us to make judgements on and have no controls to ensure equity. That was 4 plays in a row with referee conferences, every one of them to the (potential) detriment of LSU. It’s simply not practical to need that much time, review and discussion to “get the call right” on 4 consecutive plays.

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I think that’s more of the issue folks have. They put us on speed dial for reviews when we were getting some rhythm . You will never convince me that Bama would have received the same treatment .

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Well that’s just the thing - the rules also include the use of replay. There are multiple rules that need to be applied.

The overarching philosophy as stated in the replay guidelines is that the call on the field is assumed to be correct, and the replay official is there to correct things that are obviously wrong.

That was the third out of four plays that were challenged, only interrupted by a penalty that was not confidently called on the field. There is just no way to reconcile that with the replay officials assuming the call on the field is correct.

Question, would Joe Burrow have slid???

It was the right call. The rule is the way it is to protect the sliding player from getting hit. If you mark him down where he makes contact with the ground, then that incentivizes other players to hit him after he's already signaled that he's sliding.

Our complaints should be how they never reviewed anything for bama the whole game.

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Unfortunately it was a mistake from a young player. The call was correct that the player is considered “down” at the point where he slides and “gives himself up.”

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I haven't seen and can't find a replay of that play. But I still find it a stretch that they found indisputable evidence to overturn the call and put the ball half a yard short of the 1st down.

The rule is

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When a ball carrier obviously begins a feet-first slide

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Slowing the play down and timestamping the moment that the players hips even begin to dip is not in the spirit of the rule. If you have to slow it down to see, then it's NOT obvious.

This play should not be reviewable, imo. Especially since judgement calls are not typically reviewable. But the rules have a blanket line that says.

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As a general rule, the position of the ball in relation to the goal line is always reviewable by instant replay

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I take it y'all have seen this before??? That has got to be the worst rule in this game

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I thought everyone who watches college football knows this rule.

That's why when a running QB is close to the first down marker, they have to dive head first. Every QB should be aware of this.

The rule makes sense, since they want defenders to lay off a sliding QB and defenders therefore usually pull up when they see the QB initiate a slide.

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It was the right call. The rule is the way it is to protect the sliding player from getting hit. If you mark him down where he makes contact with the ground, then that incentivizes other players to hit him after he's already signaled that he's sliding.

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But there is a practical gap between where they marked him and where he “signals” he is sliding. It will become obvious to a defender when his feet get out in front of him.

This type of call makes it less likely he slides next time. He had plenty of room to get the first down, nobody on the field thought he was short - if he presses his luck long enough, he gets drilled while dropping down, preventing him from executing a slide and now we can’t see where the slide “started” because he waited until the absolute last moment to go down. All that said, the benefit of a few inches should be and is typically given to the runner.

Had Bama done same thing, my guess is it would not have even been reviewed but on the other side, it was a dumb play by Van Buren and he will learn from that mistake