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Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:19 pm to JPLSU1981
Miles must be mad at SFP and taking it out on KW.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:20 pm to JPLSU1981
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I certainly don't count the misdirection TDs
of course you don't, overlook the facts that don't support your argument, it's the oldest trick in the book
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:20 pm to JPLSU1981
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Again, I think KW is going to be great
No actually you said you don't see what's so impressive about him.
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1. The substantial differential in number of carries (225 to 70).
2. The substantial differential in number of carries in short-yardage situations.
Eh... Keiland was used quite a bit in goalline situations (especially the MSU game as Slow mentioned yesterday).
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:23 pm to snuffy94
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you're right KW did have more 25 more carries with 6.8 yard avg compared to CS 7.2 avg...
No one can argue that Scott is not a very good back, and I won't go into detail as much as I did for basically this exact same thread yesterday... my point yesterday was that regardless of the numbers in college, KW will be drafted the highest of our 3 runningbacks (and higher than Hester).
ETA: Especially if he breaks below 4.4 which is very possible.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:23 pm to TigerFanatic04
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Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:24 pm to Stagg8
what about the old saying....no news is good news? i didn't read the article, but from previous posts it doesn't sound like KW was mentioned in association with fumbling...maybe he is where he needs to be and Miles doesn't need to mention it...
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:28 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:i am afraid, friend, that you are blinded. KW is a home-run threat everytime he catches the ball. youtube some highlights and hes always in the endzone. theres a reason: outrageous speed.
I love KW and think he has lots of potential as well, but were we watching the same team last year? What did KW do that was so impressive?
One hurdle against VaTech for an impressive TD run in space ... anything else?
I certainly don't count the misdirection TDs on the play that we use inside the ten yard line because any RB can score on that play if it's run properly against the right defense.
Again, not bashing KW, but he didn't really show anyone anything last year, and anyone who claims he did is blinded by their own hopes that he will be a star.
oh-- and that flip play he always scores on-- theres a reason he runs it everytime and it always works. hes got the speed to get to the corner.
all the long plays where it looks easy and that hes not a special back, thats b/c he makes it look easy. for example:
TD vs awburn
great one handed catch, SPEED TO GET THROUGH THE FIRST LEVEL-- every other back on our team gets tackled for a 10 yard gain if they catch the poor pass. then the speed to fake outt he DB at the 5 yard line. TOUCHDOWN.
30 yard TD vs v-tech
SPEED to get around the corner. watch the angles on the defense bend as he smokes them. then has just enough speed to snake into the endzone. again, our other backs dont score on that play.
this is not a post to bash chuck scott or super dick-- i truely like both as players and guys, but he act as though keiland brings nothing to the table means your ignoring the big plays and his YPC
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:31 pm to Stagg8
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No actually you said you don't see what was so impressive about him in the 2007 season.
Corrected.
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Eh... Keiland was used quite a bit in goalline situations (especially the MSU game as Slow mentioned yesterday).
It's not just goal line situations ... it's every short-yardage situation that we had all year long. Jacob Hester had 10 times the amount of carries as KW in those types of situations, if not more... and those down and distances bring your average down significantly over the course of a season. Any way you shake it, JH was our short-yardage back in 2007 yet still managed to average nearly 5yard a carry.
We can go back and forth all day long, my main point in this thread is to point out
1. Keiland Williams has potential that is as of yet unrealized for many different reasons, one of which being Jacob Hester was a better all-around back in 2007 and thus limited KW's chances to get in the game, make mistakes and correct them, etc, etc.
2. Keiland Williams has to continue to improve to reach said potential.
3. Geaux Tigers!
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:35 pm to JPLSU1981
but you still had the dumbest comment of the day.
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I certainly don't count the misdirection TDs on the play that we use inside the ten yard line because any RB can score on that play if it's run properly against the right defense.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:38 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I might have been exaggerating just a tad to make my point. Certainly a RB has to have the speed to be able to beat the defender to the corner and KW has that ability.
But that play in itself doesn't tell me a whole lot about KW as it pertains to his ability to be a consistent and productive RB for us.
So, I kind of take back the comment, but kind of don't.
But that play in itself doesn't tell me a whole lot about KW as it pertains to his ability to be a consistent and productive RB for us.
So, I kind of take back the comment, but kind of don't.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:39 pm to JPLSU1981
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:43 pm to JPLSU1981
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One hurdle against VaTech for an impressive TD run in space
What about the 50yd untouched screen pass against Auburn then he got exactly 1 more touch the entire rest of the game?
This is a real, valid criticism of Miles - he and/or his staff sometimes have trouble identifying the hot hand and sticking with him.
Another example? What about the first half CS had against Kentucky only to be virtually benched in the second half?
Yet another example of a problem which Miles has been slow to correct (from the thread from the last day or two).
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:44 pm to JPLSU1981
lets not bicker and argue over whos better than who. this is supposed to be a happy occasion 
(monty python reference)
no but seriously, all of you rantards need to just accept the fact that weve got badass backs, and we havent really seen any of them to their full potential because Jacob Hester was the shite and miles put his trust in him. when the season starts we are going to see who the "best" of the backs are, but just keep in mind, the guys who arent #1 in the backfield arent bad. we have at least 3 backs that could start for at least 80% of the teams in college football right now. frick YES.
(monty python reference) no but seriously, all of you rantards need to just accept the fact that weve got badass backs, and we havent really seen any of them to their full potential because Jacob Hester was the shite and miles put his trust in him. when the season starts we are going to see who the "best" of the backs are, but just keep in mind, the guys who arent #1 in the backfield arent bad. we have at least 3 backs that could start for at least 80% of the teams in college football right now. frick YES.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:48 pm to LSshoe
I really look for CS to take over the Hester role of FB/TB and be on the field alot. What does that mean for KW or CM? Likely a few less touches, but with the ability to break big plays because they are fresher!
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:49 pm to LSshoe
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This is a real, valid criticism of Miles - he and/or his staff sometimes have trouble identifying the hot hand and sticking with him.
Another example? What about the first half CS had against Kentucky only to be virtually benched in the second half?
Yet another example of a problem which Miles has been slow to correct (from the thread from the last day or two).
Agree, the rotation of the running backs and the elimination of needless penalties are two areas where Miles might improve.
Also, the defensive coaches need to make adjustments this season that prevent opposing teams from taking advantage of our LB's and nickel backs in coverage.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:52 pm to TheFranchise
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What about the 50yd untouched screen pass against Auburn then he got exactly 1 more touch the entire rest of the game?
This is a real, valid criticism of Miles - he and/or his staff sometimes have trouble identifying the hot hand and sticking with him.
To a small extent, I agree. But the case can also be made that Jacob Hester had the "hot hand" all season long and Miles and staff rode him to a national title.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:52 pm to LSshoe
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all of you rantards need to just accept the fact that weve got badass backs, and we havent really seen any of them to their full potential because Jacob Hester was the shite and miles put his trust in him. when the season starts we are going to see who the "best" of the backs are, but just keep in mind, the guys who arent #1 in the backfield arent bad. we have at least 3 backs that could start for at least 80% of the teams in college football right now. frick YES.
This is the correct answer!
Posted on 8/12/08 at 2:52 pm to JPLSU1981
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What did KW do that was so impressive?
Don't forget that screen pass against Auburn he took for 50 yards for a TD. And he had some nice runs against Tennessee in the SECCG.
Unfortunatley, he wasn't given the ball enough to make a number of plays. With the carries he got last year, making two great plays is about right.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:05 pm to Chimlim
The fact that Miles doesn't mention KW in an interview about a closed scrimmage doesn't mean anything. But if it turns out KW is not as much in the mix, doesn't that mean the other guys are having one helluva camp? Regards, The Glass is Half Full Guy.
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