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re: Does Nuss come back or go to draft?
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:26 am to hsgeoboy
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:26 am to hsgeoboy
Draft insider was saying yesterday that word going around the NFL teams is that most do not want to draft QBs with less than 20 college starts and will be telling them to not enter draft until at least then. Because they will not be NFL ready and not get the game experience in the NFL before they can be. (Specifically mentioned Nussmeier only having 8 ish starts)
This is what they are blaming the high failure rate for guys like Richardson.
And why J Daniels and Nix have done so well this year.
He will be back I’m sure of it.
That being said does that make it less likely top QBs will ever wait 3 years to play again? Knowing one great year isn’t enough they need to be starter for 2-3 yrs.
This is what they are blaming the high failure rate for guys like Richardson.
And why J Daniels and Nix have done so well this year.
He will be back I’m sure of it.
That being said does that make it less likely top QBs will ever wait 3 years to play again? Knowing one great year isn’t enough they need to be starter for 2-3 yrs.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 10:32 am
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:27 am to hsgeoboy
Nuss does not seem to fit Kelly's preferred scheme.
Nuss does not seem to fit Kelly's prototype QB.
Underwood fits Kelly's scheme like a glove.
Underwood is exactly Kelly's prototype QB.
Underwood is the #1 Recruit in the nation and the #1 QB for 2025.
LSU will be paying a bunch of money to Underwood. Tough to sit a kid getting paid that much money.
A freshman QB is a ready-made reason to point to 2026.
Nuss does not want to be Kelly Bryant.
Nuss does not seem to fit Kelly's prototype QB.
Underwood fits Kelly's scheme like a glove.
Underwood is exactly Kelly's prototype QB.
Underwood is the #1 Recruit in the nation and the #1 QB for 2025.
LSU will be paying a bunch of money to Underwood. Tough to sit a kid getting paid that much money.
A freshman QB is a ready-made reason to point to 2026.
Nuss does not want to be Kelly Bryant.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:28 am to hsgeoboy
Weakest QB draft in years. No brainer he’s gone.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:30 am to hsgeoboy
He comes back 
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:33 am to hsgeoboy
I don’t think he has done anything to be a first round pick. His inability to plant his feet and throw isn’t exactly what NFL teams fall in love with. His down field accuracy hasn’t been great either. You can’t just look at the good stats and call him great.
I don’t see him as high draft prospect at all yet.
I don’t see him as high draft prospect at all yet.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:08 am to hsgeoboy
He’ll have to come back next year
His draft stock has been dropping significantly lately
His draft stock has been dropping significantly lately
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:24 am to Alt26
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Nussmeier has and NFL arm.
A strong arm is not necessarily an NFL arm.
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He's shown an ability to make "NFL throws.
And inability to look off defenders, read defenses, avoid dumb turnovers.
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He has the pedigree (father is an NFL QB coach)
Non factor.
He would have the worst technique of any first round qb ever. His mobility is poor.
Nobody is drafting him now expecting him to be a starter. He may get there, but he's not close atm.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:28 am to AlldayTiger
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Would it be Underwood or give Rickie a year to see what he can do and then Underwood all the way.
Yall forgetting about Hurley? Who was highly touted as a recruit and came in very young!
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:30 am to hsgeoboy
I think he should return, He clearly needs more time on task.
He's a great talent, but my opinion that he would benefit from another season.
He's a great talent, but my opinion that he would benefit from another season.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:37 am to hsgeoboy
I'm shocked this is a talking point. He still looks so incomplete. He's missing reads, he's missing wide open first down opportunities with the run, he needs more work. I cant believe anyone would take him in the first round, there's just no way. He needs another year to be well rounded, which he hopefully achieves, but who really thinks this guy can turn an NFL offense around w his take over???
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:46 am to BayouBlitz
No situational awareness, that is what is holding him back. This is his third year and he had two full years of how that looks behind Jayden. That last 30 seconds of Jayden completing two short passes to even get the opportunity to chunk the miracle downfield hail Mary is elite situational awareness and that is the hardest part of this game for Quarterbacks. Drew Brees was never a great spinner of the ball over 40 yards, but damn he knew where to go with it. Arm talent is over rated, see Jamarcus Russel. The question is not whether he develops better awareness over the last half of this season, its if he does not is LSU obligated to keep rolling him out there, regardless? This guy has god given elite throwing talent, that's not the issue.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:59 am to wilceaux
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If they win out and make the playoffs,
Posted on 10/31/24 at 12:42 pm to hsgeoboy
The worse he plays or the worse the season plays out I think the more likely he comes back.
If hes somehow able to get this team into the Playoff I think he will leave. Regardless of how it plays out because he would have had a great season and led us to the playoff so his stock would be pretty high that it would be pretty stupid to come back.
If hes somehow able to get this team into the Playoff I think he will leave. Regardless of how it plays out because he would have had a great season and led us to the playoff so his stock would be pretty high that it would be pretty stupid to come back.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 1:04 pm to hsgeoboy
If he's smart he will come back .
Posted on 10/31/24 at 1:12 pm to hsgeoboy
Nuss needs to come back and develop. He can’t read a defense, he spent most of the last couple of games with all the time in the world and still couldn’t go through his progressions. Missing wide open receivers. He does not have it mentallly to be an nfl qb. 50% completion percentage against ole Miss and TAM with unforgivable interceptions. Other than throwing a very pretty ball at times and having a big arm there isn’t anything that’s good about him. Honestly if he does go to the nfl he shouldn’t be more than a 4th round pick. He’s been a big part of the problem the last two games.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 10/31/24 at 1:12 pm to TheosDeddy
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next 4 games will shape the narrative
Yep.
He's kinda at a crossroads. If he kills going forward I expect him to leave. OTOH, more performances like last Sat's 2nd half and he may return. Since we're likely to lose 4/5 OL starters, then Mason and Lacy, and perhaps AA, Daniels, and Thomas, the offense is gonna be a rebuild in '25. That's way different from what Joe and Jayden came back for.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 1:32 pm to AlwysATgr
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That's way different from what Joe and Jayden came back for.
Not to mention Jayden and Joe both scrambled when things weren’t there even in first year starting. That’s something we’re not seeing from Nuss
Posted on 10/31/24 at 1:43 pm to fOrEvErLsU1987
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Not to mention Jayden and Joe both scrambled when things weren’t there even in first year starting. That’s something we’re not seeing from Nuss
I agree.
My point is that their supporting cast was conducive to their personal improvement. Nuss won't have that. They didn't get caught-up in a rebuild; he will if he returns. Think Hodson after '87.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 1:53 pm to BayouBlitz
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A strong arm is not necessarily an NFL arm.
He has to have the arm strength be able to make any throw in the NFL. A rocket arm doesn't mean you will automatically be a great QB. But there are VERY few successful QB with weak arms. Nussmeier has an NFL arm and you won't hear anyone who evaluates for a living say otherwise.
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And inability to look off defenders, read defenses, avoid dumb turnovers.
Can be taught. His issues are not from an inability to read defenses. It's from a confidence he can make any throw. That can be tempered. What is much harder to teach, if you can, if the ability to throw with anticipation which is what every great NFL QB has to be able to do. Very few college QBs would have attempted the 4th down throw to Anderson vs. Ole Miss, let alone complete it.
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Non factor.
He would have the worst technique of any first round qb ever. His mobility is poor.
Nobody is drafting him now expecting him to be a starter. He may get there, but he's not close atm.
Worst technique of any 1st round QB ever? EVER? Holy hyperbole.
The fact that his father is a NFL QB coach is going to weigh in his favor because that means the NFL lifestyle and what it takes to be successful in the league is not going to be a shock to him. And you're a fool if you don't think the success of Burrow and Daniels isn't going to weigh in his favor. NFL teams like taking guys from certain programs. Meaning, if all things are equal the GM will give guys who went to certain schools the benefit of the doubt simply because they went to that school. You see that with teams like New Orleans (Ohio St) and Philly (Georgia).
Drafting a QB is always a risk. But if the last two NFL prospects from a certain school came into the league and immediately became stars an NFL team is going to consider that history in their thought process. It won't be the sole determining factor, but it will factor.
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