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re: Does Anybody Have Video of the Brown Drop?

Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:15 pm to
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This is probably what happened.


I don't know.

If you watch the play again he seems to read the ball off the bat immediately. He doesn't seem to take any false steps or hesitate like you often see with a guy who doesn't read it off the bat. He also doesn't react like a guy who has lost it in the lights. Juxtapose that with Larson on Saturday where he very clearly couldn't see the ball and reacted immediately as such.

IMO, he saw it off the bat well. He was tracking it well. HOWEVER, he was not certain of where the wall was behind him in the millisecond the ball was coming down. As he was tracking he was also bracing for a potential impact with the wall. I think at the moment the ball was about to his glove he anticipated he would be up against the wall. When he wasn't, it caused a flinch. It's a scary feeling when you are expecting to run into something but you aren't certain as to when you will.

If he gets to the wall before the ball arrives, he probably puts a hand on the wall to steady himself and makes the catch. OR, if the ball is a foot or to shorter he's more confident he's not going to hit the wall, stops, and makes the catch. Unfortunately, he was in that small area of uncertainty which cause a split second loss of focus. That's all it took.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4425 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:22 pm to
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He also whiffed on his AB in the 9th with RISP, that would have won the game.


He did get out, but describing a flyout to the warning track in the deepest part of park as "whiffed" is a bit harsh. Can't criticize that AB. It wasn't exactly White's AB in the 10th where he swung at a ball six inches wide and six inches up in the zone.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13316 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:24 pm to
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He did get out, but describing a flyout to the warning track in the deepest part of park as "whiffed" is a bit harsh


It’s not harsh



It’s flat out WRONG. Our internet fanbase is full of fricking retards
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4425 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Our internet fanbase is full of fricking retards


This is true. I was trying to be polite but your post is accurate.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18604 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:35 pm to
All things you listed come with time and experience. The down side of starting a freshman maybe a little bit before his defense is ready. He is going to be a good player. He can already hit as we can see.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
6145 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:57 pm to
All he needed was a base hit to win, yet he swings for the fences.

Sounds like a whiff to me. Just win the game.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4425 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:15 pm to
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All he needed was a base hit to win, yet he swings for the fences.



Wow.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13316 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:24 pm to
A ‘whiff’ is a swing and a miss, usually resulting in a strikeout you fricking clown
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10096 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:43 pm to
He is a freshman who continue to do great things. To me, it looked like he thought he was closer to the wall than he actually was.

Did it suck? Sure….

shite happens though, those boys played their asses off and almost hosted a super when most of us were saying they would not even make a regional.
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1601 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:25 pm to
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The ball was tailing toward the foul line (his right to left) as RF is much different from LF and CF, he lost it in the lights, and there's the distraction of people screaming through the opening in the fence right next to him. He didn't get his glove on the ball, and with his phenomenal eye-hand coordination, I think this is because he lost it in the lights. I score it a double, not an error.
Please accept this as my fairly educated "opinion." I don't have an LSU baseball contact

Brown was drafted by the Rangers as a pitcher. He's a lefty and also played 1B in high school. I think he'll be an pitching and position-player all-american candidate at LSU. He can play anywhere he wants and will be a 1st-2nd round draft pick in 2 years. He's such a good athlete and can hit, which is why he's in the OF vs. 1B.

LSU lost because they scored only 3 runs vs. a patched-together pitching staff, were 0-5 with RISP, etc. And the true frosh Brown homered in the game!


Agree with 95% of what you said. However, calling the best two relievers that UNC has, with a third top bullpen arm at the ready if needed is anything but "patched-together". UNC coach had his ducks in a row and was in a much better position pitching-wise than LSU heading into the final game.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15529 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Was busy with life to watch the whole game and everyone is ranting about the drop.

Nobody should rant about the drop. In baseball, there are errors. NC also made an error. Freshmen are also more likely to make errors.

We have studs who are supposed to hit. Our studs did not deliver. Not at the plate, nor from the mound.

I'll be Brown's biggest cheer leader for the rest of his career. Can't wait to watch his professional development.
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
2651 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:57 pm to
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Does Anybody Have Video of the Brown Drop?


From what I saw, apparently he realized the ball was hit on a rope and was going to get to the fence (quickly). He turned and hustled back to the fence to try to make it back to the fence in time to make a play on the ball. During that moment he had to glance back at the wall to get a feel for where/how far away it was. In the process he either lost a bead on the ball and/or lost it in the lights so he made a stab at where he guessed the ball was going to be. He almost guessed right. The ball did not hit in the glove but caromed off the left front edge of the webbing of the glove just as he hit the wall. Given all of that, he made a hell of an attempt and came about 1 - 2 inches from making an amazing catch.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7063 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:43 am to
Really? Let us know when you find it and take a look. We will be anxiously awaiting your judgement.
Posted by West Bank Dan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2010
893 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:05 am to
We had our best pitcher in vs. their 7-8-9 hitters in the 9th and then our 1-2-3 hitters vs. their best pitcher in the 10th and lost fair and square. It was great they made it to the regional final without winning Holman’s start. This plus making the SEC tourney final and playing (eventual champion?) TN close might provide some optimism and momentum in the offseason. Glad we played better ball and had some fun (Milam!) towards the end there. Geaux Tigers!
Posted by GroundPati
Winchester Tn
Member since Jan 2021
417 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:26 am to
well, when you see it, you will have to admit it glanced off his glove then his head then hit the ground. just completely unfortunate For everybody
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:35 am to
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Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:44 am to
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Brown lost the ball in the lights



That was not the only ball lost in the lights in that stadium.

I believe the lighting system is only a secret known to the home team and I will be watching any other night games there to see how many other teams playing NC lose balls in the night
Posted by FullFontE
RTP
Member since Jan 2020
462 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:56 pm to
Geaux, I don’t disagree with anything you said, and I wasn’t attacking or faulting Brown in any way. All good—we’ll be back next year!
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
8192 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:02 pm to
Really need to put a moratorium on this topic. Kid made an error at a bad time. IT happens. Does nobody any good to continue to harp on it. He will not be known for that play, move on
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51867 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:27 pm to
I saw this earlier & wanted to post but didn’t want to bump the thread
May have already been posted

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Also saw this LSU Wire USA Today

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Brown played in 56 games as a freshman for LSU this season and was listed as a left-handed pitcher/first baseman/outfielder on the Tigers roster.

In those 56 games, Brown had 48 total chances to make a play on defense. He finished the season with 46 putouts, one assist and only one error. The man missed one ball all year long and now people want to crucify him for it.
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