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Do You Think Alleva Is Letting JJ Play the Season Out to Bury Brown/Temple?

Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:49 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:49 am
There's really no positive way to spin what's happening because it means one of the following:

a) Alleva was a weak enough AD to succumb to the influence of Brown and Temple in hiring a basketball coach and needs things to get ugly enough to neuter their influence.

b) Alleva is so weak of an AD that he doesn't have enough professional/political clout to oust JJ.

c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics so as not to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
3276 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:51 am to
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c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.


Doubt it. I've seen Alleva speak in seminars on campus and if there is one thing he is ultra-aware of and responsive to, its money. He sees those already-low ticket sales going even lower. No doubt about that.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24228 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:51 am to
No. He is doing that for the $.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:58 am to
Alleva is doing exactly that. He's letting Dale and Collis and the boys see what they lobbied for. Joe enjoys a little condescension as much as anyone. He's absolutely gonna let jones go down in flaming ball of poo bc joe knows how this makes the good ole boys look too. He's gonna get his money's worth and then he will make the change. Don't expect it prior to seasons end. Joe is enjoying his I told you so too much right now
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8155 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:59 am to
It has to either be the incompetence option or that he knows he is miserably bad at hiring coaches and is scared that he will lose his job after he fricks up yet another hire.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:59 am to
Why would anybody think Alleva has a plan about anything at this point?
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:01 am to
Funny 3 choices. Probably more like, 'we fired the inept football coach mid-season and that brought a ton of negative publicity.' Considering this, a lack of long-term plan, bball profitability and the contract buy out, this is a pretty simple conclusion.

Let's grab an awesome coach from one of the Cinderellas this March.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107468 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:05 am to
Alleva doesn't want to fire 2 coaches in-season, but he really needs to end this debacle with JJ now. Can't really get a great coach until after madness is over. So no giant hurry I guess. Let this season be over with.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33983 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:05 am to
don't the think the average Joe realizes the BS that took place regarding Brown/Temple/Jones
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61870 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:06 am to
LSU saves $800000 by firing him at the end of the year. If one of you Ballers won't him gone that bad I'm sure if you will write the check he would be gone tomorrow
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28256 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:07 am to
I think he lets it go to the end for a few reasons:

1. A change now isn't going to "save" the season and he doesn't have many (if any) influential boosters/BOS members jumping down his throat to replace Jones like he did with Miles.

2. Jones has definitely underachieved, but he hasn't been horrible until this season. For all of the obviously weak coaching, this will be his first losing season. Maybe Joe thinks he deserves to finish out his tenure.

3. He may not want to get the reputation of an AD who has a proclivity to fire coaches mid-season. While becoming less so, it's still somewhat taboo to fire a coach mid-season in the college game. Maybe he thinks doing it twice in the same season will hurt his chances of luring a good coach here.

***In the end does it really matter though? We've seen what he did with a two-month head start on replacing Miles. He could have gotten the same result with a two minute head start. Hopefully Joe is putting together a short list and getting a game plan ready implement as soon as the season ends. However, based on past history, we can't be confident that is the case.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:11 am to
No reason to do it now. Let the disgrace brought to us by Dale and his boys be on full display for all to witness. They won't be able to say shite when this team closes out the season like they will.

Fire him after the season is officially over and start the process. This season is done and firing him now isn't gonna change anything and would only leave room for the supporters to say jones didn't get a chance and argue that the team was about to make a run.

Leave no doubt joe. Sweep the leg.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56379 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:

There's really no positive way to spin what's happening because it means one of the following:

a) Alleva was a weak enough AD to succumb to the influence of Brown and Temple in hiring a basketball coach and needs things to get ugly enough to neuter their influence.

b) Alleva is so weak of an AD that he doesn't have enough professional/political clout to oust JJ.

c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics so as not to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.


I can't stand Alleva. But this is a dumb post.

D) Alleva is waiting until the end of the season when a change will be made.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56379 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:15 am to
quote:


LSU saves $800000 by firing him at the end of the year. If one of you Ballers won't him gone that bad I'm sure if you will write the check he would be gone tomorrow


Don't think this is true.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9355 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:16 am to
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Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.

Do people really think that the guy who does this for a living, and has knowledge of all the behind-the-scenes circumstances that we don't, isn't perceptive enough to know that there's no issue with the basketball team? All because he doesn't make a knee-jerk blind firing without a long term plan?

So he's just supposed to make a quick off-with-their-head decision and then think about the repercussions and future plan afterwards?

I mean that's borderline delusion from the fanbase. We have absolutely NO IDEA what's going on behind closed doors.
Posted by CEORanter
Nacogdoches, TX
Member since Oct 2013
281 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:17 am to
Brown and Temple are lobbying for a Cinderella run in the sec tourney
Posted by TigerRoad
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2015
163 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:17 am to
He never had to think about firing the basketball coach at duke. Maybe he needs on the job training.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:23 am to
I personally believe Alleva is afraid if he fires Jones during this season the players will refuse to play the remaining games.
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:33 am to
Is there anything Alleva has been involved in that hasn't turned into a PR nightmare?

LSU should have known what they were getting in Alleva when they hired him because of the Duke lacrosse scandal.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:38 am to
Seriously, what's the point in canning him? Satisfaction?

It isn't like we have a savior sitting as an assistant on the bench. We can compile a coaching team consisting of Wooden,Smith, Knight, K, Izzo, Boeheim, Calhoun and this team still isn't going to win games.
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