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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:42 am to
Posted by BumKnee
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:42 am to
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Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:44 am to
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Can you name a single unnecessary injury that has ever occurred at first base? I’m sure it’s happened sometime, somewhere but statistically it wouldn’t register at 1/100,000th of a percent. It’s just typical “safety overreach” from the soccer mom crowd.


Boy that was easy.

Player carted off field after collision at first base.

LINK

LINK


Feel dumb yet, or shall I keep going?

Now explain what the green base hurts?

1/100,000th of a percent of what?
Of plays at first base?
1/100,000th of a percent of collisions result in serious injury?
Like what is your argument here?
I don’t think you know, or understand math.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 9:47 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:46 am to
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I didn’t see anything malicious with the slide

What slide? Still the catcher was blacking the plate without the ball.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
3394 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:47 am to
Looks like the catcher had his legs open before getting there and the runner wasn't going to slide in time to take advantage of him catching it and closing his legs to block the plate. He closed them at the time he was hinking he'd catch it, but missed it. From what I see, the runner wasn't looking to slide, knew he was out of ball was caught and came in to barrel into him either way.

There was a time where something like this would clear the dugouts. And that was it.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:49 am to
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around the catcher.

Why would he have to do that? because the plate is being blocked maybe?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76036 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:50 am to
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Why would he have to do that? because the plate is being blocked maybe?


he’s in the act of fielding the ball.

that’s not blocking
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:50 am to
That was not malicious
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:54 am to
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Why would he have to do that? because the plate is being blocked maybe?

Because the ball best him there, as has been explained numerous times
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:55 am to
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And if the runner beat the ball to the plate it would have been obstruction, but he didn’t. Instead the ball beat the runner putting the catcher in the act of receiving it so the runner had to slide.


Makes sense I guess. Runner screwed himself with that abomination of a slide attempt.

I still don’t understand how the ump can watch that replay and throw out the runner for malicious intent.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:58 am to
Because he didnt slide, the amount of impact on the hit is kind of irrelevant
Posted by BumKnee
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:02 am to
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Catcher's Obstruction: If a catcher blocks home plate without the ball while the runner attempts to score, it’s obstruction unless the runner deviates unnecessarily (Rule 8-3-e).



Per the rule, the catcher clearly had the base path blocked without the ball! Catcher missed the throw, so penalty for obstruction should have been in place! The runner did not interfere with catcher's attempt to catch the throw, he simply missed it! Terrible call!
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:04 am to
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Even though the runner "let up" prior to contact, he clearly had no intention of sliding into the plate on what would have been a close play at the plate.


Because he would never have made it to the plate with the catcher blocking his path. Terrible call by the umps.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18296 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:07 am to
After all is said and done that may be the image frame that the umpires used to decide.

My first thought while watching the game last night was Oregon intentionally creamed the catcher. Then replay shows catcher blocking plate.

They reviewed this for like 10 minutes, and it's the left coast. so you have throw out so rationall decision making. They probably took that one image instead of the whole.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76036 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:13 am to
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I agree, an argument could be made that "in the act of receiving a throw" had already passed.


what’s he supposed to do? teleport?

Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
2946 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:14 am to
Just a guess, but I bet the "malicious" call is due to the fact that instead of trying to slide under the catchers glove, the runner led with a knee to the chest of the catcher.

Just a guess.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19257 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:14 am to
I agree with you. I guess the only explanation would be if he slid none of that happens and he’s safe easy.
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2303 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:00 am to
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Just a guess, but I bet the "malicious" call is due to the fact that instead of trying to slide under the catchers glove, the runner led with a knee to the chest of the catcher. Just a guess.


I just wish umps could use common sense sometimes. It was a clumsy play by the runner, but malicious? Give me a break. You have the advantage of replay showing the runner clearly trying to slow himself down. If that’s truly the correct interpretation of the rule then it needs to be completely re-written.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22852 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:03 am to
Catcher was clearly in front of the plate and you could clearly see runner starting to slide when the collision occurred. Imo this was a bad call.

Sliding at 2nd and 3rd main purpose is to slow down so as not to over run the base. Avoid tag is the reason you do it at home. Last thing you want is to slide to early which would allow the catcher to stop them momentum before they get home.
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
3757 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:04 am to
Holy frick. First time seeing this, read about it earlier, but fell back asleep. What was the runner supposed to do there? bullshite call.
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