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re: Do people understand scenes will pitch on 4 days rest of his pitching career

Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:51 pm to
also showing Nola giving up 13 runs in a 3 game stretch on back to back 5 day tests maybe isn’t you best argument
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:54 pm to
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What difference does it make if we lose tonight or win tonight but go 0-2 against Florida?


In 1 scenario we make the finals and in the other we do not. But more importantly if we did save Skenes we would still need to win 1 game with out him, so in your scenario we lose the finals to Florida either way
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:54 pm to
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No, they don't. They also don't understand that the season is over if we lose tonight. Skenes gives you the best bet. That is who will be on the mound.


Exactly! You can't win it all if you don't get to the finals!
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16832 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Pro pitchers pitch on 4 days rest so Skenes will be fine. It was not many years ago pitchers threw every 4 days. They threw for years with 3 days rest. He will be fine probably throw 7 innings.


Not up to you. Not up to me. It’s up to CJJ.

And I think CJJ’s first concern is Skenes’s future career and he’s not taking any chances on PS getting injured by throwing him early.

We’ll all find out soon enough but NC or not, I don’t think you see Skenes until Saturday assuming we win tonight. And it has nothing to do with strategy or tactics. It has everything to do with PS’s future career.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:57 pm to
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They pitch on 4 days rest normally


Not immediately, you dip shite.

New pitchers are conditioned to pitch on fewer days rest SLOWLY. A fresh out of college pitcher who is pitching on 7 days rest won't IMMEDIATELY get thrown into a short rotation. How freaking stupid would that be? Ruin a new arm that you just paid huge bonus bucks for? Just think it through just for once in your life.
And believe it or not his future career is way more important right now.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:57 pm to
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What difference does it make if we lose tonight or win tonight but go 0-2 against Florida?


1) Making the finals is better than making the semis NO MATTER WHAT

2) younger players and the coach get more experience making their way thru the tournament.

and the most important reason why we want to win tonight...

3) AT LEAST two more games I get to watch this team play.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2259 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:58 pm to
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What difference does it make if we lose tonight or win tonight but go 0-2 against Florida? Saving Skenes for Saturday is your best chance to bring a trophy home.



Right. Skenes has at most around 120 pitches left to throw in an LSU uniform, one way or another. Its not unreasonable to want more of those allocated to Florida than to Wake Forest.

A Skenes complete game or nearly complete game on Saturday likely means a national championship.

It's not clear that Skenes is even physically able to go a complete game today, and the more he contributes today the less he can contribute later.

I'm just not sure why people think its a no-brainer for Skenes today but wasn't a no-brainer yesterday...the same "do-or-die" reasoning applied yesterday, and at least yesterday you'd leave him 4 days rest before Game 3.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted by redchaser
Member since Mar 2014
276 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:58 pm to
When the media was having a melt about Skenes throwing 124 pitches a couple of weeks ago, I thought about the time Nolan Ryan threw 235 pitches in a game then came back 3 days later and pitched 6 innings.
Posted by chilge2
Member since Nov 2019
231 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:01 pm to
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But more importantly if we did save Skenes we would still need to win 1 game with out him, so in your scenario we lose the finals to Florida either way


If you save Skenes for Game 1, you're giving Floyd/Ack, etc. an extra day of rest as well and therefore more likely to win Game 2. I don't think there's really any argument to the contrary. You're either content to beat Wake and increase your chances of a loss to Florida in the finals, or you roll the dice, ask your guys to dig deep, and put yourself in the best possible position for a championship run.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:01 pm to
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When the media was having a melt about Skenes throwing 124 pitches a couple of weeks ago, I thought about the time Nolan Ryan threw 235 pitches in a game then came back 3 days later and pitched 6 innings.



How old was Ryan when he did that and how many years had he been pitching in MLB?

Jesus, you people have no contact with reality at all, do you?
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4498 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:06 pm to
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We’ll all find out soon enough but NC or not, I don’t think you see Skenes until Saturday assuming we win tonight. And it has nothing to do with strategy or tactics. It has everything to do with PS’s future career.
Are you just a fan or do you have some expertise. Seriously asking? The TV guys, who are baseball guys with expertise, said last night that even though Beloso wouldn't say in the post-game interview that Skenes is starting that he will indeed start.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10304 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:06 pm to
Everyone that says don’t throw Skenes tonight then who would you start and who would you go to in relief?


LSU doesn’t have much left in the way of pitching.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:07 pm to
Sigh. No. He wouldn’t. Not for a couple years. And even then it’s usually just the top 2 or 3 starters. And they only do it for about 10-20% of their starts.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:08 pm to
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mets69

I am confusion.
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
2516 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:10 pm to
Can Scenes pinch hit for Thompson during rest days? Asking for a friend. :)
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:22 pm to
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Do people understand scenes will pitch on 4 days rest of his pitching career

I liked the way you got “rest” to do double duty.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12366 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:23 pm to
He better get used to that but he is not used to it yet.
Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Member since Apr 2022
426 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:26 pm to
Skenes from an Italian restaurant- Billy Joel
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11845 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:26 pm to
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it's the routine change you have to factor in.


This went out the window at the beginning of the World Series.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:27 pm to
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I don't think there's really any argument to the contrary. You're either content to beat Wake


This is your problem right here. It’s not a matter of “being content” to beat just Wake If you don’t beat Wake, the seasons is over, that’s it. So you are right there is no argument, you have to get there first then get your guys to dig deep
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