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re: Do Costal, Auburn and Ok st wish they started their #1 pitcher in hind sight?
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:30 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:30 pm to AlwysATgr
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That's just what most of us who question the decision are arguing from.
But I have seen multiple of those people you reference also say something to the extent of “if you can’t beat Tulane without Skenes you might as well go home”.
So to me, it’s just the opposite. If you can’t beat the field in a regional you host after winning game 1 with your entire staff less your best guy (essentially swapping Skenes for a bye), then how do you expect to advance any further than Game 1?
I mean I get it, everyone does, you would prefer to throw your best pitcher against the harder team. It’s a reasonable position. But anyway you slice it you have to win 3 games. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to take the route of having the most arms available going into Game 2.
And if we are talking about playing the odds, any contender such as LSU should be able to win a regional they host after winning Game 1. That extra day of rest for Skenes is part of the equation
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:35 pm to kfaulk03
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The point was that if u dont start Skenes and get down, burning the pen game 1 while facing a possible loss is not an enviable situation. Conceding and saving the pen is a terrible outcome as well. To your point, if you start Skenes and lose this of course is a poor outcome.
You are creating a poor argument, because if LSU is only scoring 1 run against a 4-seed through 6 innings, then they clearly have bigger problems than which pitcher should be going in game 1.
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:41 pm to TrueBaldPate
If we win regional then it was the right move if we lose it then it wasn’t plain and simple. I would have went a different route considering it was against a very subpar team, but I ain’t the coach!
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:46 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
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You are creating a poor argument, because if LSU is only scoring 1 run against a 4-seed through 6 innings, then they clearly have bigger problems than which pitcher should be going in game 1.
Um assuming that Tulane has the same amount of runs (assuming this is what you mean with LSU at one run) against a different pitcher is a poor argument
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:47 pm to OceanMan
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If you can’t beat the field in a regional you host after winning game 1 with your entire staff less your best guy (essentially swapping Skenes for a bye), then how do you expect to advance any further than Game 1?
Former coaches far most accomplished than CJJ as well as most commentators question it, not just us wild-eyed rantards.
Wouldn't it be preferable to be 1-0 with your best pitcher still available against the more difficult team?
If CJJ had said it's late in the season and important our arms get a full week between starts I can accept that. He's got his finger closer to the pulse and I think players get fatigued over a long season.
But unless CJJ is seeing something no one else has seen it's an unconventional move.
My questioning is over. Looking forward to Ty putting on a show tonight.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:07 pm to TrueBaldPate
You don’t throw the best Pitcher in America against the worst team in the tournament. It was a bad decision, I don’t give a frick what anyone says.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:21 pm to LSUcajun77
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I’ll give you Okie State.
Their started got ran out today in the 4th inn8ng. They had avg pitching at best with an even worse bullpen.
Relied solely on the homerun. (Sound familiar)
Plus Dallas Baptist and ORU had already beat the pokes 2 times apiece this year.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:24 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:sure, but baseball isn't like that. Not at all.
You should not lose to a 19-40 team, period.
It's not like football - a bad team can definitely beat a very good team, it's just the nature of the game.
So I'm fine with pitching Skenes and "guaranteeing" the win. We're now ahead of the curve.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:26 pm to TrueBaldPate
If they waited to start them in game two, that didn’t work out too well for Aubie and Okie.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:27 pm to TrueBaldPate
Yeah, I think so!!!
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:28 pm to TrueBaldPate
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Do Costal, Auburn and Ok st wish they started their #1 pitcher in hind sight?
Maybe but who would you rather the ball in his hand in an elimination game? Skenes or Floyd? I’d be confident in both but having your #1 guy in a win or go home game is what you would rather 1000%
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:42 pm to LSUcajun77
The thing you guys keep leaving out is that in order for it to be and even comparison you have to use the entire strategy. The strategy wasn't just to pitch your ace. The plan was to pitch him the entire game and not use the bullpen at all. If Coastal and Auburn do that they likely win those games.
Auburn comes back today against a decent Southern Miss and their ace gives up 3 HRs. Now they are headed home.
Auburn comes back today against a decent Southern Miss and their ace gives up 3 HRs. Now they are headed home.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:54 pm to atltiger6487
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So I'm fine with pitching Skenes and "guaranteeing" the win. We're now ahead of the curve.
Being ahead of the curve is having your Ace pitch game 2.
Do you know what THE advantage of becoming a Top 8 National Seed is? Skip and Paul certainly did, as do the other top 7 national sees coaches that didn’t start their Ace yesterday.
THE advantage is getting to play one if the worst 4 seeds. That means you get to save your Ace for Saturday night against the 2/3 winner, who both used their Ace the previous day.
That’s being ahead of the curve.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 5:55 pm
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