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DL is the biggest issue that needs to be fixed! PERIOD!
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:02 pm
That old saying that you win and lose games in the trenches is very true! On offense when the OL is playing well and opening holes, picking up blitzes and giving the QB time to pass, everybody looks better.
Defense is no different! When the DL is getting some push, filling the holes and pressuring the QB, the linebackers look better because the DL is keeping everything in front of them and the secondary looks great because they don't have to cover a receiver all over the field which is impossible, even if you're Coach Prime.
The problem with LSU is we are getting manhandled at the point of attack, which means the LBs and DBs are running all over the field because the DL has no control up front.
The defensive line basically sets the table for the rest of the defense to feed off of, but right now we're getting our arses handed to us.
If LSU can get the DL to perform, the rest of the defense will look so much better because when you control the trenches, you can somewhat dictate what the offense is going to run.
LSU still has an opportunity to have an incredible season, if we can get the DL to carry its load. If you look at Alabama that's exactly the blueprint they follow.
Alabama dominates the trenches and loads up every year on elite DL and OL because Saban knows if you win in the trenches, you can also win NCs!
Defense is no different! When the DL is getting some push, filling the holes and pressuring the QB, the linebackers look better because the DL is keeping everything in front of them and the secondary looks great because they don't have to cover a receiver all over the field which is impossible, even if you're Coach Prime.
The problem with LSU is we are getting manhandled at the point of attack, which means the LBs and DBs are running all over the field because the DL has no control up front.
The defensive line basically sets the table for the rest of the defense to feed off of, but right now we're getting our arses handed to us.
If LSU can get the DL to perform, the rest of the defense will look so much better because when you control the trenches, you can somewhat dictate what the offense is going to run.
LSU still has an opportunity to have an incredible season, if we can get the DL to carry its load. If you look at Alabama that's exactly the blueprint they follow.
Alabama dominates the trenches and loads up every year on elite DL and OL because Saban knows if you win in the trenches, you can also win NCs!
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:05 pm to SwampyWaters
The DL is a huge liability right now but based on the scheme Matt House runs, I’d say tackling across the board is the biggest liability right now.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:09 pm to SwampyWaters
Its scheme causing the downfall. Players just not into game. They want to attack the QB and play tight coverage here we play read and react and very soft coverage.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:09 pm to SwampyWaters
Supposedly Smith and Perkins were going to be difference makers this year, but this too hasn't proven to be true. I have no idea how such dominant players were neutered so bad by the coaching staff that they seem almost irrelevant compared to the hype coming into the season. 
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:14 pm to SwampyWaters
I agree but dude it’s all bad. ALL BAD!
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:16 pm to SwampyWaters
All are bad. The Lbs and Dbs are worse. The DL would be ok if the Lbs and DBs could cover and tackle.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:05 pm to SwampyWaters
If you think DL is a bigger issue than secondary then you’re just dumb
LSU has no one that will get drafted in that secondary
LSU has no one that will get drafted in that secondary
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:12 pm to sunnydaze
This is looking as bad as the Bo P hire!
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:20 pm to Spankem
Both playing out of position.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:32 pm to SwampyWaters
It’s really bad because we all thought that the DL would be the strength of the team this year and help mask the known deficiency in the secondary.
Instead they’ve been terrible and really exposed just how bad the secondary is.
Instead they’ve been terrible and really exposed just how bad the secondary is.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:35 pm to Bayoubengal205
I agree that tackling is a big issue, but that falls back to the defensive line. When the DL fails in the trenches, the LBs and DBs are having to run all over the field to try and keep up the receivers and chase RBs because the DL broke down. I know we missed a ton of tackles, but I guarantee that a lot of that is because they are absolutely exhausted.
If the DL can control the trenches, LSU will look like a completely different team. I'm not saying we don't have other issues, but in football you build from the inside out because that where games are won on both sides of the ball.
If the DL can control the trenches, LSU will look like a completely different team. I'm not saying we don't have other issues, but in football you build from the inside out because that where games are won on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:56 pm to SwampyWaters
I’m sure Losing the DL coach hasn’t helped. In game adjustments and game planning by the guy who coaches that position is absent. I’m sure that’s a big reason as to why the DL has been so bad.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:04 pm to SwampyWaters
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I agree that tackling is a big issue, but that falls back to the defensive line. When the DL fails in the trenches, the LBs and DBs are having to run all over the field to try and keep up the receivers and chase RBs because the DL broke down. I know we missed a ton of tackles, but I guarantee that a lot of that is because they are absolutely exhausted.
I would agree that DL play needs to be a lot better given the talent we have up front.
That being said, I think you’re putting way too much on the DL. It’s not like WRs were getting open because Dart was back there for 10 seconds. That might have happened once or twice, but most of the bad coverage busts were immediate.
When you have an LB meeting the RB one-on-one in the hole, and the RB just bounces off and keeps going.. that’s not on the DL. When you have DBs running at flat-footed receivers and completely whiffing on tackles, that’s not on the DL. When you have 2 DBs covering the same guy in man coverage while another runs free, that’s not on the DL.
I don’t doubt that everyone was tired at the end of the game - OM ran like 88 plays. But A) that’s because the defense as a whole couldn’t get off the field and B) they were making the exact same mistakes in the first quarter.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:09 pm to SwampyWaters
Season is done. Put a fork in it
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:21 pm to SwampyWaters
If they only miss 15 tackles vs 30 we win the game
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:27 pm to SwampyWaters
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The problem with LSU is we are getting manhandled at the point of attack, which means the LBs and DBs are running all over the field because the DL has no control up front.
I agree about the trenches but damn after watching some of these film studies I cant figure out what the hell any of them are trying to do. They had no answer to Ole Miss playcalling like they never saw film on these guys. That was as unprepared as anything I ever saw…
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:01 pm to SwampyWaters
My first thought was well how would that improve the shitty tackling by everyone? But I can see it helping that too the way you describe it.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:27 pm to SwampyWaters
The problem is, if you are running zone most of the time, you need your DL to be completely disruptive. Those guys have to abandon their zones when you give the QB enough time to tuck his kids in and read them a bedtime story.
Also run defense. It's something most don't talk about, but you could really improve this defense drastically if we stop allowing easy rushing lanes because we have poor gap responsibility and aren't lined up close and have good leverage. We have very athletic linebackers that should be eating TFLs and sacks, but we can't do that because the DL doesn't do its job.
If Jenkins can get the DL to do the basic things right, this defense improved drastically, and from the looks of it, Welch will be playing a lot more meaning his athleticism will turn into experience+athleticism, and we'll be better for it down the road. Defensive line play is the key to it all. We can only do so much with tackling and pursuit angles, and learning zone right now. We can at least teach basic fundamentals on DL. The DL isn't bad, they just don't have a DL coach.
Also run defense. It's something most don't talk about, but you could really improve this defense drastically if we stop allowing easy rushing lanes because we have poor gap responsibility and aren't lined up close and have good leverage. We have very athletic linebackers that should be eating TFLs and sacks, but we can't do that because the DL doesn't do its job.
If Jenkins can get the DL to do the basic things right, this defense improved drastically, and from the looks of it, Welch will be playing a lot more meaning his athleticism will turn into experience+athleticism, and we'll be better for it down the road. Defensive line play is the key to it all. We can only do so much with tackling and pursuit angles, and learning zone right now. We can at least teach basic fundamentals on DL. The DL isn't bad, they just don't have a DL coach.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:13 pm to SwampyWaters
Until LSU lines up every play with 5-6 players on the los of scrimmage...and I mean on the los, not 1 1/2 yds off the los, and rush a minimum of 4 with the OL not knowing who is going to rush and who isn't...LSU will not show any improvement.
Our DBs cannot guard receivers for very long, so LSUs only hope is to pressure pressure pressure especially on passing situations, so that our DBs can pressure receivers and stay with them for 5-10 yds. Will LSU get beat long occasionally...yes, but we can't continue the way it is going now. Pressure and press coverage rather than giving 7-10 yd starts by receivers and LSU will improve. Guaranteed!
But, because I don't think BK knows how to fix the very things he says need fixing....I don't expect anything different this week against MO. Hope JD and receivers have another big game....they are going to need it.
Our DBs cannot guard receivers for very long, so LSUs only hope is to pressure pressure pressure especially on passing situations, so that our DBs can pressure receivers and stay with them for 5-10 yds. Will LSU get beat long occasionally...yes, but we can't continue the way it is going now. Pressure and press coverage rather than giving 7-10 yd starts by receivers and LSU will improve. Guaranteed!
But, because I don't think BK knows how to fix the very things he says need fixing....I don't expect anything different this week against MO. Hope JD and receivers have another big game....they are going to need it.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 6:54 am to Spankem
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Supposedly Smith and Perkins were going to be difference makers this year
of all the disappointing things this defense has provided, this is the biggest to me. i could not wait to see the havoc Perkins was going to create while smith dominated upfront.
whether it be scheme, overhyped, still injured, a combination of all the above, this has been my head scratcher and wtf.
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