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Did the LSU-Alabama Rematch Really Kill the BCS?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:35 pm
Sports Illustrated article from yesterday - LINK
TLDR: College football is still using the BCS if LSU plays Oklahoma State instead of the rematch with Alabama.
I hate the BCS, but would prefer it to have won that national championship (or at least had the chance against OKST)
TLDR: College football is still using the BCS if LSU plays Oklahoma State instead of the rematch with Alabama.
I hate the BCS, but would prefer it to have won that national championship (or at least had the chance against OKST)
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:37 pm to bisceaux
I think it sped up the process. Kill it? Ehh
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:38 pm to bisceaux
It finished it off, but people wanted a playoff for a while.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:38 pm to bisceaux
It was dying anyways. People were tired of pollsters + computers decided who they thought were the two best teams were out of 130 at the end of every season. It makes no sense.
4 team playoff is the start of something great for CFB.
4 team playoff is the start of something great for CFB.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:39 pm to bisceaux
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LSU plays Oklahoma State
fricking Okie State fricked everything up. They had just one job
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:39 pm to bisceaux
Pretty much pointed to as the reason we went to the playoff by a lot of sports talking heads.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:41 pm to bisceaux
Now we just have bullshite arguments about "quality losses" and it's 13 people who decide the polls rather than a few dozen journalists. I think this get said a lot, the BCS formula but just with a 4 team playoff would've been much better. I'm not a fan of the committee.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:42 pm to thunderbird1100
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People were tired of pollsters + computers decided who they thought were the two best teams were out of 130 at the end of every season. It makes no sense.
4 team playoff is the start of something great for CFB.
I agree that the 4 team playoff is better, but the computers were the best way to do the rankings imo. Easily.
If they had simply kept the BCS ranking system and expanded to four teams it would have perfect.
People are fricking dumb, biased, and have agendas. They shouldn’t be allowed to determine who gets into such a lucrative four team tournament.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:43 pm to bisceaux
Another interesting part of the article. What could have been for Miles and this program :-(
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The game impacted the future of Les Miles just as much, as the former LSU coach himself admits. He thinks the Tigers would have beaten Oklahoma State in the title, and that he might still be the coach if they had. LSU had escaped Tuscaloosa with a 9–6 overtime victory during the regular season, but Alabama’s title-game romp began its current seven-game winning streak in the rivalry, the first five of those coming with Miles on the LSU sideline. Miles was fired in September 2016, one month into his 12th season. “Oklahoma State could have played in that game and changed the course of history in my mind,” he says. “I enjoyed Mike Gundy and am happy the success they’re having [at Oklahoma State], but I’m betting they don’t stop us and I’m betting our pass rush is unstoppable. I think we’re going to win that game. I just do.”
A second national title for Miles in four years would have boosted LSU’s recruiting haul, the coach says, to further “stay in a competitive heap with the guy [Saban] doing the best job in college right now.” That’s why Miles hates to admits the fact that the BCS did get it right in 2011. “Alabama was easily the second-best team in the country,” he says.
His biggest regret in a coaching career that spans nearly four decades remains his team’s preparation leading up to the rematch. He wishes he had better motivated his players to play a team that they’d already beat. “The head coach, me, did a poor job,” he says.
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The game impacted the future of Les Miles just as much, as the former LSU coach himself admits. He thinks the Tigers would have beaten Oklahoma State in the title, and that he might still be the coach if they had. LSU had escaped Tuscaloosa with a 9–6 overtime victory during the regular season, but Alabama’s title-game romp began its current seven-game winning streak in the rivalry, the first five of those coming with Miles on the LSU sideline. Miles was fired in September 2016, one month into his 12th season. “Oklahoma State could have played in that game and changed the course of history in my mind,” he says. “I enjoyed Mike Gundy and am happy the success they’re having [at Oklahoma State], but I’m betting they don’t stop us and I’m betting our pass rush is unstoppable. I think we’re going to win that game. I just do.”
A second national title for Miles in four years would have boosted LSU’s recruiting haul, the coach says, to further “stay in a competitive heap with the guy [Saban] doing the best job in college right now.” That’s why Miles hates to admits the fact that the BCS did get it right in 2011. “Alabama was easily the second-best team in the country,” he says.
His biggest regret in a coaching career that spans nearly four decades remains his team’s preparation leading up to the rematch. He wishes he had better motivated his players to play a team that they’d already beat. “The head coach, me, did a poor job,” he says.
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:44 pm to jlovel7
Computers are impartial. A selection committee can be biased.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:45 pm to bisceaux
It certainly killed College Football for me, my interest in it as a whole has been GREATLY reduced after that. This year made it even less interesting due to the same team getting a pass and winning it all.
I don't really see it ever being as exciting for me again, as the regular season does not mean much any longer since a committee can just vote you in if you have injuries or just pass the "eye test:".
I don't really see it ever being as exciting for me again, as the regular season does not mean much any longer since a committee can just vote you in if you have injuries or just pass the "eye test:".
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:47 pm to bisceaux
no, it only killed my soul
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:49 pm to 33inNC
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It certainly killed College Football for me, my interest in it as a whole has been GREATLY reduced after that. This year made it even less interesting due to the same team getting a pass and winning it all. I don't really see it ever being as exciting for me again, as the regular season does not mean much any longer since a committee can just vote you in if you have injuries or just pass the "eye test:".
I couldn't agree more. I still watch LSU and other important college football games, but it just isn't as fun as it was before 2012. And I'm too old now to worry about these types of things in life :-)
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:51 pm to bisceaux
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That’s why Miles hates to admits the fact that the BCS did get it right in 2011. “Alabama was easily the second-best team in the country,” he says.
I will scream this until the day I die, but the BCS was not created simply to pick the two best teams to play for the title.
The BCS was created to ensure that conference bowl tie ins would not prevent the best teams from all conferences from having the chance to play each other.
The Big 12 Champion should have had the chance to play the SEC Champion to determine the National Champion.
Alabama had their chance to stake a claim and couldn’t do it. They then sat at home while LSU beat top 10 UGA to earn a conference title and OSU beat a top 10 Oklahoma to earn their own.
Alabama shouldn’t have even been in the conversation unless there were no other conference champs with 1 loss.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:51 pm to bisceaux
I liked the BCS. Needed to be expanded to 4, though.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:57 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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I will scream this until the day I die, but the BCS was not created simply to pick the two best teams to play for the title. The BCS was created to ensure that conference bowl tie ins would not prevent the best teams from all conferences from having the chance to play each other. The Big 12 Champion should have had the chance to play the SEC Champion to determine the National Champion. Alabama had their chance to stake a claim and couldn’t do it. They then sat at home while LSU beat top 10 UGA to earn a conference title and OSU beat a top 10 Oklahoma to earn their own. Alabama shouldn’t have even been in the conversation unless there were no other conference champs with 1 loss.
This. That team should have never been in the conversation, yet they got a pass BOTH years while the SEC West/East champ had to put it all on the line in the SECCG. Why reward that crap? That is what is wrong with the committee- They can make a decision and then a reason for it and follow no "standard". Why punish a team for winning their conference by letting a team that did not in just because they look better on paper? Why even play the fricking games?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:18 pm to bisceaux
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Did the LSU-Alabama Rematch Really Kill the BCS?
No, but it killed Lsu as a football program. We would have better off playing ok st or not going to title game at all. Been down hill since. Which doesn't make sense to me, since others have been spanked in title games and still are doing ok
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:18 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Computers were skewed because one of the factors used in the programs was rankings. Polls before the final bcs had OKST left out of polls, ranked out of the top 30 by the media and pollsters that wanted the rematch. It was shameful.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:23 pm to bisceaux
It definitely did. Between the lack of interest for a regional game and the fact that many people would have watched to pull for, in this case Oklahoma St, to beat the best of the SEC, it was going to be and was a ratings disaster.
This was the only time in the BSC history that when there was 2 teams very close for the second spot, that the one that would have the biggest impact on viewership wasn't selected. This was an unusual situation, because in all of the other BCS cases, the team that would have the most viewership also would bring in the most fans.
Bama brought lots of fans, I believe allot of kids in Alabama got a trip to NO and 2 days off of school for Christmas so there fans could afford the tickets. That was or third BCS championship in NO and the were multiple times the amount of kids than the first 2 combined.
This was the only time in the BSC history that when there was 2 teams very close for the second spot, that the one that would have the biggest impact on viewership wasn't selected. This was an unusual situation, because in all of the other BCS cases, the team that would have the most viewership also would bring in the most fans.
Bama brought lots of fans, I believe allot of kids in Alabama got a trip to NO and 2 days off of school for Christmas so there fans could afford the tickets. That was or third BCS championship in NO and the were multiple times the amount of kids than the first 2 combined.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:25 pm to thunderbird1100
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It was dying anyways. People were tired of pollsters + computers decided who they thought were the two best teams were out of 130 at the end of every season. It makes no sense.
So now it's people with a clear agenda, or no knowledge of the sport at all, picking the 4 best teams based off of "eye test".
The Playoff committee is a joke
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 3:26 pm
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