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re: Dick Vitale says 'major allegations' coming for LSU and Arizona

Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:47 pm to
I agree. It’s irrelevant but the fact that it was used in a documentary means it immediately became available to many more people.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

One....he admits making an offer to pay a player (strong arse offer) which is a conspiracy to commit a "crime/rules infraction."

An offer for what. Oh, let me guess, you are only guessing.

Two....WW said he has made many of these "offers" (with success) in the past. Which means he actually paid players in past years....also a rules infraction.

Comedy. I don't know what you did, but you are guilty.



I have said it before, I believe WW to be guilty. I also believe it can't be proven...just alleged.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:50 pm to
The documentary first made news just a few weeks ago(if that...? Days have ran together) after a media screening. I guess it’s possible someone from the NCAA was able to see it, but that still makes it “new”.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 2:52 pm
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:51 pm to
I was hoping Bobby Knight wasn't restrained and bitch slapped that bald headed pos.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:52 pm to
My point is that there was nothing new on the tapes. The medium in which the info was received, whether audio or text, doesn’t matter.

The doc might make it worse for emotionally weak people but it doesn’t really move the needle one way or the other as far as the actual investigation
Posted by Gus007
TN
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:54 pm to
Vitale and Forde are like Pelosi and Schiff starting an investigation, looking for a crime.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

As they all quote each other...


Wouldn’t totally rule it out, but very very small chance given the timing & crossover in media companies
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

The medium in which the info was received, whether audio or text, doesn’t matter.


Yahoo’s stance is that up until the release of the doc, it was a merely a “media report”, which the NCAA cannot act upon. Now that the tape is confirmed, it’s something they can use.

Would open up potential trouble if true.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:03 pm to
I don’t really see that as accurate. I think it’s yahoo trying to keep having something to write about. Horrible media course. Equal to bleacher report
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:08 pm to
It doesn’t really matter dawg. But I’m saying the audio, separate from the film, could have been heard by the ncaa
Posted by Rosenblatt
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:12 pm to
Cool

Geaux Tigers
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:16 pm to
One thing we do know is they’ve definitely heard it now
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

he admits making an offer to pay a player (strong arse offer) which is a conspiracy to commit a "crime/rules infraction."


A "conspiracy" requires more than one person. There's nothing on that tape clearly establishing Wade was working with someone else to commit an infraction.

quote:

Two....WW said he has made many of these "offers" (with success) in the past. Which means he actually paid players in past years...


1. How long ago were these purported payments?
2. Who knows if he were even at LSU when they purportedly occurred?
3. The statute of limitations could have LONG run on those purported violations.

No, no one is naive enough to think that Wade didn't "cheat". That's how recruiting works in college basketball. For not just Wade, but every power conf. coach. It's why AAU basketball exist.

Now, you're right. The NCAA isn't a court of law. Thus, the burden of proof is far lower than a criminal trial. That said, they still need proof to level an administrative sanction. Is there enough to charge Wade with allegations? Maybe. But to what degree. Take a look at the Kansas NOA. The basis of which is essentially evidence that came to light in the criminal trial of the Adidas personnel. Here, as far as we know, the only "evidence" is a less than 5 minute conversation between Wade and Dawkins.

Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:24 pm to
quote:


I don’t think some of you lemmings know what this even means.

The mob mentality in this board is very amusing though.



Sounds good intellectual giant.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:26 pm to
Where do you want me to send your internet points?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

One thing we do know is they’ve definitely heard it now


I mean, the "media reports" were transcripts from evidence presented in a fricking federal trial. The NCAA got nothing new from the airing of this documentary.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

You said offering and actually giving is the same.

They are the same....they are both violations. Hence, the same.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

intellectual giant.


Thanks!
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:42 pm to
Interesting how that article mentions LSU and AZ in the beginning; but then proceeds to be entirely about LSU. Bias much?
Posted by TNTigerman
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:42 pm to
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