re: Death Valley vs. Autzen Stadium

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I have said previously, I can't compare the two since I haven't been to Tiger Stadium. All I can tell you is that Autzen is a special place. And it's considered consistantly one of the top 10 loudest and most difficult places for opponents to play. And yes, LSU is on that same top 10 list. So I guess you could say they BOTH are great places for college football.

As to which one's louder, heck I don't know. I just know my ears are ringing for hours after a game at Autzen.

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Honestly, the UO posters on here have been some of the more objective posters to come on this board

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Honestly, the UO posters on here have been some of the more objective posters to come on this board

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First, thank you on behalf of the Duck poster (so far). You guys have made it easy to be polite. You're objective, have a sense of humor, and generally willing to carry on a civil exchange.

Based on last years games and our upcoming game and the posts I've had on opposing teams boards, I'll tell you that if I was grading SEC fans, I'd give you guys a 10, Tenn fans a 7 or 8 and Auburn fans a 3.

We've got our share of junior high fans. You start winning and you get some obnoxious bandwagon fans. You'll probably get some closer to game time. It's just a reality of life. I wish it was different.

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Then consider that Autzen averaged 108% of capacity last year. Point is, Oregon fans are up for EVERY game.

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Too bad only four of you showed up for the National Championship game. When a school 2 states away gets dominated in attendance to the game by a school from across the country... it tells us a lot about commitment (nothing about crowd noise which I know is the point of this thread), but an awful lot about commitment.

Epic fail Igoringa!

I think it was more of a issue with Duck fans either A)could not find any tickets in time to buy or B)did not want to spend, a grand, 2 grand, 4 grand for a single ticket. I am guessing the later. But you must know, Over a hundred thousand Ducks did make the long trip to Zona. Most just did not buy a ticket to the game.

UO had tons of special pep rallies or events there. The fact that some AU fans did not see many UO fans in Scottsdale at bars may be because they were all at some rallies or such. Just one rally, The Oregon Alum one- drew a crowd of estimated size over 100k fans from Oregon. So look buddy, sometimes things are more deep then meets the eye. Oregon was there, and the Ducks did indeed fly South that winter, as Ducks tend to do.

Attacking the football programs support of our team is laughable. We make every other PAC 12 team look silly for community support. Look at our 2011 spring attendance figures, then look at all the other PAC 12 schools. After you do, come back and talk.

Douboy - hope y'all stay dry in Morgan City.

The fact that Autzen is even being discussed with Tiger Stadium speaks volumes. Kudos to the Ducks!

When TS is rocking it sounds like the inside of a solid rocket booster.

Here's a neat field level play vs Bama in '10. Enjoy.

Last Play vs Bama'10 (SEZ field level)

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Saw that the other day on YouTube..I have a hard time believing Huskey Staduim gets that loud given the fact they havent been relevant and one year won only a game i think

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that stadium was loud as hell when LSU played there

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I think it was more of a issue with Duck fans either A)could not find any tickets in time to buy or B)did not want to spend, a grand, 2 grand, 4 grand for a single ticket. I am guessing the later. But you must know, Over a hundred thousand Ducks did make the long trip to Zona. Most just did not buy a ticket to the game.

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PMJI, but there's another explanation. Oregon doesn't have the tradition, longstanding fanbase or long-term alumni booster support that Auburn or most other SEC teams have.

Plus, there are more alumni / boosters / students / well-heeled fans at Auburn than Oregon. Add to that the fact that there's precious little reason to stick around bumfark Alabama in the dead of winter. And many of us had already made one trip to Arizona last season; maybe the economy's booming down south, but out here it still sucks.

Several of my friends went to the game -- I couldn't make it having blown my travel budget on a roadie to Wazzu last year -- and according to them, the mix was roughly 60/40 barners. Clear domination, attendance-wise, but not exactly a blowout.

Y'all have to realize that us Oregawn fans are relatively new to this whole football-as-worthy-of-our-attention thing.

We spent decades worth of Saturdays in the fall fishing, hunting, skiing, sailing, protesting, getting high, etc.. anything *but* going to Autzen. The students rarely filled their allotment of 5000 seats, except for the OSU game, and the only other game that came close to selling out was Washington -- because their fans would drive down I5 in their Jags, buy up all the tickets and treat it like another home game. Embarrassing.

I vividly recall games at Autzen in the early-mid 70s with 15k fans bouncing around the concrete bowl as the Ducks would get shellacked again. The low point was a game against Utah in '75; we'd lost 15 straight games, and the announced attendance was 11,000, most of whom were disguised as empty bench seats.

It's only been around the last 25 years or so that we've even dreamt of any degree of consistent relevance within the *conference*, never mind nationally.

So with Oregon, you get the football-fan equivalent of someone who grows up in a double-wide and suddenly learns they've inherited a fortune. The new fans -- I don't call them bandwagonners, but they do bear the traits -- weren't born into it, not used to it like U$C or Udub fan (at least before Udub crashed and burned into obscurity). As a result we tend to be less arrogant and insufferable than Trojan or Husky fan -- but also somewhat cocky, parochial and hair-trigger defensive.

I chuckle at some of my fellow Duck fans' reaction to the question here. I can tell you Autzen can be loud and intimidating. But to say there's any comparison to a full Tiger Stadium for a conference night game requires a degree of delusion that I can't reach.

It's math, folks. 92,000 > 59,950. Especially after drinking all day. Which is one reason I'm glad this game isn't being played there, although I'd love to see a home-and-home.

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Clear domination, attendance-wise

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Not one person was saying UO had more or equal to the same number of AU fans INSIDE THE BCS GAME. I was saying however UO did show up in Arizona in droves. And I used the figure of at least over 100k. I know their were at least that many because that is the figure that Jerry Allen gave to their crews estimate of just that one Alum sponsored rally. (LSU fans, Jerry Allen is to us as what Harry Carry was to the Chicago Cubs and then some-ie HE IS the face of Oregon Football to us). If you take issue with this fan estimate that Jerry said, send Jerry an email. I was only dispelling the myth that no Ducks showed up to Glendale. I know we had at least 100k in the city because of that game, but as I easily pointed out, not all bought a ticket.

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I chuckle at some of my fellow Duck fans' reaction to the question here. I can tell you Autzen can be loud and intimidating. But to say there's any comparison to a full Tiger Stadium for a conference night game requires a degree of delusion that I can't reach.

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Other Ducks have been simply quoting non biased reporters/ coaches/ or former players. If a reporter for Michigan who has also been to the swamp, the shoe, Death Valley, and Autzen, says nothing comes close to noise as UO, I will take him at his word. And one can find endless other quotes from various sources. However, if you think about it, they all have one thing in common. They were all from people who were actually down on the playing field. LSU people need to understand that our field is down in a big pit, deep down, with walls all around it, and also with fans right on top of you, as it was built cheaply and very small and not much room off to the sides of the field. It may be loud in the stands, but it is ear crushing down on the field. That is why ESPN and all the other press from others say it's the loudest and if they have never been there before they are so shocked because it's a small stadium. Plus, don't forget the fans. They yell their bloody mouths off, most while standing the whole game, holding the sign of the "O" up. Anyways, the sound on the field is much louder then in the stands and it is a fact.

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It's math, folks. 92,000 > 59,950

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Michigan Stadium has way more then LSU at 109,901. It is the biggest stadium of any kind in America. And it is not loud. Therefor size or number of people does not always equal how loud a stadium is. Therefor is indeed NOT MATH! That stadium is built so the sound goes out easy. And other reasons can be for the type of audience it draws. Neyland Stadium is bigger then both ours as well but from my Tenn friends they tell me they get tons of rich old guys there that just sit there and don't get into the game with noise. I could go on and on and list tons and tons of stadiums that are bigger then Autzen to which no one would challenge that they are quieter.

Personally I think LSU has one awesome stadium and overall game environment and LSU fans should be proud. And I would even say- their place has the potential to be louder then UO maybe in a peak one time play or such. But if any average reporter visits any random game/ day or night, and goes to both, they will easily consider UO consistently louder, though LSU can spike much at certain plays or moments of excitement for sure. And I am talking from what the players hear(like apposing QB's) on the field, and not just fans way up in the seats.

And another different point is many of LSU's older fans say the stadium has declined some from its hay days.

If in doubt though ask the reporters or coaches who have been privileged enough to be on the playing field at both stadiums. Although maybe they are "delusional" too?

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Michigan Stadium has way more then LSU at 109,901. It is the biggest stadium of any kind in America. And it is not loud

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Because of the way it's built, just as the reason Oregon is loud is largely due to it's construction.

I'm sure the fans try and do their part, but simply put, that small of a crowd can't be considered a threat to produce much noise without aid.

As I said before, this debate will be over once and for all when Tiger Stadium gets an addition to the South End Zone, which is in the works as we speak.