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Oregon played both USC and Oklahoma in 2005.

But that probably doesn't count, since the 2004 USC team never existed. :violin:

re: Death Valley vs. Autzen Stadium

Posted by benzduck on 5/20/11 at 5:47 pm to
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I suppose my impression of Autzen is that it may be louder for day games.


I've always thought the night games seem louder than the day games. I think it's just perception.. but of the two loudest games I remember -- USC '98 and Oklahoma '06 -- one was day and one was night.

Fright Night in '09 was damn loud, and the coldest game I've been to in ages. Which I'm sure didn't help U$C much.
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playing them the first game is definitely in our favor. Les always does best with time to prepare, and I'm pretty sure Oregon started out slowly last year.


Well, we didn't exactly start out slowly last year (ask any New Mexico or Tennessee fan).

But Oregon's four losses in Kelly's tenure have all been to decent or better opponents, away from home, who all had at least two weeks to prepare for the Ducks:

@ Boise State (season opener)
@ Stanford (bye week)
vs Ohio St (Rose)
vs Auburn (BCS)

Only Stanford in 09 could be accused of having a below-average defense, and Luck and Gearhart just tore up our D in that game (didn't help that James had a bad case of can't-handle-the-pass).

We're all expecting the trend to be broken in the Jerrydome, but nobody could be blamed for thinking that having an excellent defense, with lots of preparation time, is a huge advantage against Oregon's offense. So this game scares the crap out of me. :yack:
I'm guessing he's happy as a pig in sherbet.

re: If LSU wins against Oregon...

Posted by benzduck on 5/19/11 at 11:04 pm to
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In the last 20 years, I believe you will find Oregon is 3-1 against the SEC with Auburn being the only loss.


It's better than that. Oregon is undefeated during the regular season vs SEC teams since 1977. That's 33 seasons.





Minor detail: After playing Georgia and LSU in 1977 we didn't have another SEC team on the schedule until 2002. That's mostly because Oregon stopped scheduling paycheck games.

Still, 3-1 is 3-1.

re: I'm just glad Crowton is gone

Posted by benzduck on 5/19/11 at 1:41 pm to
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QB drastically improve once they get away from Crowton.


You could also say our QB play drastically improved once we hired Chip Kelly. :))

I know Bellotti wasn't sad to see Crowton gone. Wonder how Miles feels?
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And I used the figure of at least over 100k. I know their were at least that many because that is the figure that Jerry Allen gave to their crews estimate of just that one Alum sponsored rally.


With all due respect to Jerry, estimates of non-neutral observers of crowd sizes are notoriously unreliable. One man's 100,000 is another man's 20k. (Remember the "Million Man March"?)

The bottom line is that Auburn fans were willing to pay more for the tickets than Oregon fans -- that's a fact not in dispute, borne out by the balance of fans in the stadium, since all fans had equal access to tickets on the secondary market.. unless you know something I don't.

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Other Ducks have been simply quoting non biased reporters/ coaches/ or former players. If a reporter for Michigan who has also been to the swamp, the shoe, Death Valley, and Autzen, says nothing comes close to noise as UO, I will take him at his word.


Fair enough, but the problem is that the number of neutral observers -- there I go again -- who have been at both stadiums in similar situations is very small. And yes, it is a fact that the noise on the field is much louder than it is on the stands.

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Therefor size or number of people does not always equal how loud a stadium is. Therefor is indeed NOT MATH!


Nobody would ever accuse Michigan fans of being the "noise equivalent" of LSU fans. Not even Michigan fans. As they say in Ann Arbor, "Down In Front Is Not A Yell". And Michigan Stadium isn't built like either Autzen or TS -- it's a much shallower bowl, has no overhangs or decking to reflect the sound.

I submit to you that if you put 59,950 screaming LSU fans in Autzen, it wouldn't be the same experience as 92,000 screaming LSU fans in TS.

"Louder on the field" in terms of sheer decibel rating? Until we get truly scientific measurements with multiple calibrated sound level meters tended by independent observers, we'll never know.

I've never believed any "decibel level" reports from any stadium. You don't know how the scale is weighted, for one thing.

I won't argue with regards to the overall consistent loudness -- certainly not on defense -- because I haven't been at both stadiums. And neither have you, I gather.

But I recall quotes from Mississippi State players, who were on the field at the first game after the expansion in 2002. And they said the noise wasn't as impressive as they expected. At the time, some of us were attributing this to the expansion itself changing the configuration of the bowl; the noise wasn't hanging like it did in the pre-expansion era. Of course, you won't see these quotes in the Oregon media guide. Not sayin, just sayin.

As for making "friends" for more website hits, oh yeah, that's what I'm about. Busted! I make a bloody fortune off that web site. Google Ads owes me $3.57 so far. :banghead:
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I think it was more of a issue with Duck fans either A)could not find any tickets in time to buy or B)did not want to spend, a grand, 2 grand, 4 grand for a single ticket. I am guessing the later. But you must know, Over a hundred thousand Ducks did make the long trip to Zona. Most just did not buy a ticket to the game.


PMJI, but there's another explanation. Oregon doesn't have the tradition, longstanding fanbase or long-term alumni booster support that Auburn or most other SEC teams have.

Plus, there are more alumni / boosters / students / well-heeled fans at Auburn than Oregon. Add to that the fact that there's precious little reason to stick around bumfark Alabama in the dead of winter. And many of us had already made one trip to Arizona last season; maybe the economy's booming down south, but out here it still sucks.

Several of my friends went to the game -- I couldn't make it having blown my travel budget on a roadie to Wazzu last year -- and according to them, the mix was roughly 60/40 barners. Clear domination, attendance-wise, but not exactly a blowout.

Y'all have to realize that us Oregawn fans are relatively new to this whole football-as-worthy-of-our-attention thing.

We spent decades worth of Saturdays in the fall fishing, hunting, skiing, sailing, protesting, getting high, etc.. anything *but* going to Autzen. The students rarely filled their allotment of 5000 seats, except for the OSU game, and the only other game that came close to selling out was Washington -- because their fans would drive down I5 in their Jags, buy up all the tickets and treat it like another home game. Embarrassing.

I vividly recall games at Autzen in the early-mid 70s with 15k fans bouncing around the concrete bowl as the Ducks would get shellacked again. The low point was a game against Utah in '75; we'd lost 15 straight games, and the announced attendance was 11,000, most of whom were disguised as empty bench seats.

It's only been around the last 25 years or so that we've even dreamt of any degree of consistent relevance within the *conference*, never mind nationally.

So with Oregon, you get the football-fan equivalent of someone who grows up in a double-wide and suddenly learns they've inherited a fortune. The new fans -- I don't call them bandwagonners, but they do bear the traits -- weren't born into it, not used to it like U$C or Udub fan (at least before Udub crashed and burned into obscurity). As a result we tend to be less arrogant and insufferable than Trojan or Husky fan -- but also somewhat cocky, parochial and hair-trigger defensive.

I chuckle at some of my fellow Duck fans' reaction to the question here. I can tell you Autzen can be loud and intimidating. But to say there's any comparison to a full Tiger Stadium for a conference night game requires a degree of delusion that I can't reach.

It's math, folks. 92,000 > 59,950. Especially after drinking all day. Which is one reason I'm glad this game isn't being played there, although I'd love to see a home-and-home.

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