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re: Daniels staying has nothing to do with Howard
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:18 am to boweswi05
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:18 am to boweswi05
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Maybe but he also knew he was one injury away from starting as the backup. Being 3rd string and running scout team for 2nd straight year he wasn't willing to do.
If he wasn’t willing to wait and pay his dues, what makes you think he’d wait 3-4 years for Nuss to move on? I agree that Daniels returning may have hastened his departure by a year, but Nuss is the long term reason for him not staying. Without Nuss in the picture, Howard is QB2 in 2023 and first in line to start in 2024. With only Daniels gone, he’s still looking at potentially being QB2 until 2026, the same as he is with Daniels staying. The long term prospects are the root cause of his departure.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 10:21 am
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:22 am to shoelessjoe
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Only LSU could have 3 big time QB prospects in two years, Howard, Holstein and Manning, and whiff on all 3.
What a stupid fricking post.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:23 am to Lester Earl
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What do you think he would he had done if Nuss had announced a transfer in December & Daniels still had come back?
What if Bk retired in December and LSU was hiring Coach O again?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:27 am to MikeTheTiger71
Daniels returning for another year actually helped Howard out.
He CLEARLY wasn't ready this year. People saying running the scout squad hurt his chances... ok, Collins is coming in and will do that. Daniels coming back meant he had 1 year to catch up and pass Nussmeier; otherwise the job is Nussmeier's already.
I bought into the Howard hype, and when Daniels announced he was coming back, I thought things laid out perfectly- he develops next year, and takes the job in 2024.
I guess Howard just didn't think he could catch Nuss, even with a year's time to catch up.
He CLEARLY wasn't ready this year. People saying running the scout squad hurt his chances... ok, Collins is coming in and will do that. Daniels coming back meant he had 1 year to catch up and pass Nussmeier; otherwise the job is Nussmeier's already.
I bought into the Howard hype, and when Daniels announced he was coming back, I thought things laid out perfectly- he develops next year, and takes the job in 2024.
I guess Howard just didn't think he could catch Nuss, even with a year's time to catch up.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:33 am to Lester Earl
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He doesn’t. Feel free to answer the question.
Already have in about 15 post on this thread.
Do the work.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:38 am to shoelessjoe
Wow, how did LSU whiff on Howard. Wasn't he on the team this year? Appears he could not beat out Nuss or JD. Due to this, he is transferring in order to have a shot a playing earlier. Hate to see him go but wish him the best. BK has been very clear, it has been and will continue to be a two-horse race between JD and Nuss.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:If Daniels leaves Howard is competing for the starting job with Nuss.
Daniels staying has nothing to do with Howard
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:44 am to mmcgrath
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Howard is competing for the starting job with Nuss.
If you think Howard has a chance to beat Nuss, what does Daniels have to do with anything?
Again, Nuss is the variable.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Agree with this. However, I will say I wish he would have at least stuck it out beyond Spring Practice. But I understand why he left when he did.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:58 am to mmcgrath
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If Daniels leaves Howard is competing for the starting job with Nuss.
And that would still be true in 2024. It’s pretty clear he’s not ready to compete in 2023, so that doesn’t explain the transfer. Thinking he could be stuck behind Nuss until 2026 does.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:01 am to White Tiger
If there is no competition, why would Nuss stay?
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Could it be BK sat them down and told JD he’s 1, Nuss you are 2 so Howard you remain 3, all based on SEC championship game and bowl performances? BK wants fewest possible questionable decisions before starting spring practice. Howard saw greener gridirons. Elephant in room: How to keep 3 quality QBs in this age of portal and especially NIL when college campuses have turned into the NFL’s minor league?
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Could it be BK sat them down and told JD he’s 1, Nuss you are 2 so Howard you remain 3, all based on SEC championship game and bowl performances? BK wants fewest possible questionable decisions before starting spring practice. Howard saw greener gridirons. Elephant in room: How to keep 3 quality QBs in this age of portal and especially NIL when college campuses have turned into the NFL’s minor league?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:41 am to buford4LSU
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Nuss is better than Howard.
and its not even close... in terms of development... Nuss looks comfortable out there.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:23 pm to J2thaROC
And end up losing to FSU, AtM, East Opponent and Blow out against GA ...
Great considering Year 1 but not as great for Year 2
Great considering Year 1 but not as great for Year 2
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:31 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote:If he is in the top 2 QB's he is getting better practice time this year. If he is basically shelved as the 3rd string he gets lousy reps and zero meaningful game time.
And that would still be true in 2024. It’s pretty clear he’s not ready to compete in 2023, so that doesn’t explain the transfer. Thinking he could be stuck behind Nuss until 2026 does.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:43 pm to boweswi05
quote:
Already have in about 15 post on this thread.
Do the work.
Not interested in reading you trying to frame this into a race issue. Honestly not surprised you haven’t been banned for spamming the board with that.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:21 pm to mmcgrath
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If he is in the top 2 QB's he is getting better practice time this year. If he is basically shelved as the 3rd string he gets lousy reps and zero meaningful game time.
I understand that might explain why he’s leaving now instead of waiting until next Spring, but in the long run I don’t think it changes the outcome. The “scout team” argument seems shallow and short-sighted. If he were going to be 3rd string next year behind two seniors, do you really think he’d still be transferring?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don’t think so. I believe Howard was of the impression that he would challenge for a starting role right away. That all changed when JD5 showed up.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:33 pm to ronk
Lol man you idiots are so far gone! This shite is funny as hell! Not one of y’all have figured it out yet and I know this place well, not one of y’all will figure it out. Y’all can hear it come from his own mouth and call the young guy a liar. That’s the truth of it. Clowns!
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:00 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote:No, because if both QB's ahead of him are gone after next year, the coaching staff would be investing a lot of time in developing him, likely at the cost of the 2nd string qb.
I understand that might explain why he’s leaving now instead of waiting until next Spring, but in the long run I don’t think it changes the outcome. The “scout team” argument seems shallow and short-sighted. If he were going to be 3rd string next year behind two seniors, do you really think he’d still be transferring?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:09 pm to mmcgrath
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No, because if both QB's ahead of him are gone after next year, the coaching staff would be investing a lot of time in developing him, likely at the cost of the 2nd string qb.
I agree with you that the coaching staff would be balancing the needs for 2023 and 2024 in the development of the 2nd and 3rd string QBs. The question is why Howard would not be seen as sufficiently valuable in 2024 to warrant the development and reps that you are arguing would have kept him in the fold. That points back to Nuss as the clearer choice to lead the team in 2024 and quite possibly 2025. Otherwise, they would give more equal attention to the two of them. So, again, the issue is really much more about Nuss than Daniels.
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