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re: Critics of the offense can't see the forest for the trees...(2009-2012)

Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26983 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:04 pm to
Certainly not my intention to be dishonest...The numbers are what the numbers are up to this point in 2012. I look forward to seeing the numbers 8-10 games from now, and unless there is a dramatic dropoff the rest of this season, it looks pretty likely that the upward trend of offense since 2009 is continuing. That said, there's no way for me to "fast forward" the 2012 numbers....At this point, they are what was posted. The only other way to do it is to look at only the first four games of the 2009-2011 seasons, and that doesn't really tell you anything given that you're totally missing the overall progression from 2009 to now by disregarding 70% of the games.

My only point is for fans to be patient with the offense....Our offense has gotten incrementally better each year since 2009, and based on what we've seen thus far in 2012 and finally having a prototypical QB with a solid arm, we're definitely poised to continue that improving trend as this season continues to play out.

This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 1:12 pm
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:07 pm to
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lsuexpert57
quote:

Agree with all of your post. I think the main problem is that what CLM is good at, is missed by most casual fans.

Bear Bryant is considered by most to be the greatest CFB coach ever. Vince Lombardi gets the same respect in the pro game. What were those guys known for? Clock management? Game management? Great offensive minds?

They were known for being some tough, ornery and mean damn men who built football teams that reflected their own personalities. They built some "damn strong" football teams. They were charismatic leaders of men who there players loved and respected and would run through fire for. This is what Les Miles is good at and its those qualities that has allowed him to win so many games and to make LSU the envy of every school not named Alabama.

The rantards don't understand football at this level. Football is a "hurt business" and to win consistently you have be more of a MAN than the other guy. CLM is a master at teaching this.

Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27918 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:42 pm to
JP, I think you need to keep in mind our strength of schedule as well. Easier to score point on weaker opponents than stronger ones, especially stronger D. Also, how many turnovers did we get that resulted in short fields? It is more complicated than just more yards and more points means our offense is way better.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6893 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:06 pm to
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but I can damn well be critical of what I saw on the field against a team that gave up 38 points to ULM.


Eh, it was the same players, same school, but different effort than the team that gave up 38 points to ULM.

I'm not saying that people can't, or shouldn't, be frustrated or critical of Les Miles' game plans. It just seems to me that constantly banging your head against a wall about it can't be good for anyone's health.

Being frustrated or critical isn't going to change that he will only do what he thinks is necessary for victory.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:52 pm to
Great post! Hope that arrow keeps pointing in the right direction!

Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30680 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:55 pm to
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Don't hit em with fact

Facts have no place on this board.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
70184 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:58 pm to
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Critics of the offense can't see the forest for the trees...(2009-2012)


Agreed.


But, please...PLEASE...don't use expressions Rex loves to use. Thanks!

Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94368 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

The problem was uncharacteristically sloppy play Saturday night against an Auburn team with its back against the SEC wall. We kept them in that game with drops, penalties, and fumbles.


Indeed. If the score was 22-7 or 25-7, there wouldn't be such an uproar. Had nothing to do with the playcalling. The OL is a concern like everyone is saying, but that's about the only thing that I agree with.

I've tried and successfully to cut back on the posts here. Grown arse men whining more than my 2 year old girl.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5163 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Agree with all of your post. I think the main problem is that what CLM is good at, is missed by most casual fans.

Bear Bryant is considered by most to be the greatest CFB coach ever. Vince Lombardi gets the same respect in the pro game. What were those guys known for? Clock management? Game management? Great offensive minds?

They were known for being some tough, ornery and mean damn men who built football teams that reflected their own personalities. They built some "damn strong" football teams. They were charismatic leaders of men who there players loved and respected and would run through fire for. This is what Les Miles is good at and its those qualities that has allowed him to win so many games and to make LSU the envy of every school not named Alabama.

The rantards don't understand football at this level. Football is a "hurt business" and to win consistently you have be more of a MAN than the other guy. CLM is a master at teaching this.


I agree with your basic sentiment. Miles has his flaws but probably doesn't get enough credit in this area.
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