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re: Could LSU be 8-0 after NCAA inv. into Newton???

Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:37 pm to
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If this was offered to LSU, it seem that they would have gone straight to the NCAA and SEC and advised of the situation to protect themselves. Again, the article states Ms. St. reported it to the SEC in July, so why would the SEC not report the allegation to the NCAA then.


Just as at MSU I doubt any university would get directly involved. If LSU was contacted it would have been to someone outside the program. LSU just simply disavows any knowledge of this persons actions.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53692 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:39 pm to
I believe if game would be fortified it wouldnt count as a win or loss... Just a vacancy
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89787 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

If this was offered to LSU, it seem that they would have gone straight to the NCAA and SEC and advised of the situation to protect themselves.


I agree, but I have no confirmation if that was or was not done. This staff has generally stayed on the up and up, so I imagine this was reported as well.

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Again, the article states Ms. St. reported it to the SEC in July, so why would the SEC not report the allegation to the NCAA then.


Million dollar question, and if there is any foul-play from the SEC in this story, you can kiss the prestige goodbye. An undefeated SEC champion may not make the BCS game. Fa realz.
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

If this was offered to LSU, it seem that they would have gone straight to the NCAA and SEC and advised of the situation to protect themselves. Again, the article states Ms. St. reported it to the SEC in July, so why would the SEC not report the allegation to the NCAA then.



At the time, losing Cam to AUburn was just a huge disappointment. It was kind of like damn -- we could have used that guy next year.

Now, after it's clear the guy is like schooling Tebow, you just can't take it and you have to report it.

Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
84590 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:42 pm to
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Million dollar question, and if there is any foul-play from the SEC in this story, you can kiss the prestige goodbye. An undefeated SEC champion may not make the BCS game. Fa realz.


The BCS and the NCAA are two different, independent entities.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89787 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:42 pm to
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Just as at MSU I doubt any university would get directly involved. If LSU was contacted it would have been to someone outside the program. LSU just simply disavows any knowledge of this persons actions.


You are probably right.

The Reggie Bush situation can't hold a candle to $200k cash for an unproven recruit. And to think that Auburn has trouble selling out their season tickets with that kind of cheese.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89787 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:44 pm to
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The BCS and the NCAA are two different, independent entities.


I understand that, and I was being facetious.

However, if the SEC has wrong-doing in this investigation, this will impact the conference as a whole on a national level, and indirectly, possibly the BCS.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26137 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 6:58 pm to
The story says that Cam's father, who just renovated his church, made the decision where Cam was going to play. That kind of situation almost invites abuse. Don't know anything but what I read, but this could have some legs. Hope not. Newton has earned his success on the field.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36676 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:05 pm to
Even if Auburn vacates wins the loss would stay

At the end of the year? The revised SEC West records could be something like LSU 7-1, Auburn 0-0 (or LSU 6-2, Auburn 0-1)
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89787 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:06 pm to
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Newton has earned his success on the field.


Agreed, but maybe Auburn did not earn theirs.
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:07 pm to
I really hope that nothing at all comes from this Cam Newton crap because if you don't realize it, the SEC is regarded as the most corrupt conference in college football.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89787 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:10 pm to
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SEC is regarded as the most corrupt conference in college football.


You're right.

Co-Signed,

The ACC and Florida State, North Carolina, and Miami
The Pac-10 and the only school on post-season probation at the moment, USC
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1231 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:22 pm to
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My Question is that if this was reported to the SEC Office in July, why in the hell did they not inform the NCAA of the allegations.


As I understand it, the NCAA last week asked to see Cam's father's bank accounts,etc. Cam's Pa is a pastor with a church whose building was being condemned by the city council. This past spring the church underwent extensive renovations to meet property standards. This was just a few months after Pastor Newton announced just before Christmas Eve that his son, Cam, would be attending Auburn. I know this is all highly circumstantial, but it suggests a smoking gun might (again, I said "might") be found in Pastor Newton's pocket.
Seems the NCAA is already investigating the allegations. Wish this had blown up about 2 or 3 weeks ago instead of now.
This post was edited on 11/4/10 at 7:24 pm
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:29 pm to
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My Question is that if this was reported to the SEC Office in July, why in the hell did they not inform the NCAA of the allegations.



I'm sure MSU reports of recruiting violations are a top priority for Mike Slive. I'll bet they had to call Indianapolis themselves.


Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
2493 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:50 pm to
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Could this story get bigger than any of us would like it to? Is it possible LSU could be implicated also?


I have been assured by numerous sources on The Rant that Lesticles runs a clean program, so, no, that would be impossible.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10842 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:54 pm to
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agreed. Cam's daddy aint smart enough to hide 200k.


You're assuming the agent has already passed the money along. More than likely, he's holding it in "escrow" and the payment will be hidden somewhere like in a reduced agent fee when he signs his pro contract. No way they're dumb enough to make a $200,000 contribution to the New Zion worship center.

This post was edited on 11/4/10 at 7:55 pm
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10842 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 7:57 pm to
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Wish this had blown up about 2 or 3 weeks


This is all a Moo State ploy to give LSU false hope, and get us up for Saturday so we wear Bama out for them next week.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 8:01 pm to
This is almost as bad as people thinking blood inside the body is blue
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18089 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 8:14 pm to
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You're assuming the agent has already passed the money along. More than likely, he's holding it in "escrow" and the payment will be hidden somewhere like in a reduced agent fee when he signs his pro contract. No way they're dumb enough to make a $200,000 contribution to the New Zion worship center.


possibly, then where did the money for massive renovations come from when that church is apparently broke?
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8118 posts
Posted on 11/4/10 at 8:14 pm to
Is it a recruiting violation to make a donation to a church? ...I think this one might be hard to prosecute.
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