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re: Conference Tournament Week - (Bid Stealer Tracker)

Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Traceg03
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:33 am to
UCF beating Ok. state late last night boost their RPI, D1 has them in the field.

Their last four in include Ga Tech & Kansas St. who had bad performances so they will be watching bid stealers.

Troy and Xavier are both in their first four out but still playing baseball today.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:32 am to
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Their last four in include Ga Tech & Kansas St. who had bad performances so they will be watching bid stealers. Troy and Xavier are both in their first four out but still playing baseball today.


Beside Troy and Xavier, who are the other 4 from our list (5 including ASU) they have out? I would probably have Cincinnati and Louisville out for sure, but Georgia Tech and KSU would probably be next on my list. There is going to be a bid steal from the Big East for sure, so I’d have St John’s in as the placeholder. It’s looking likely that Cal or another bid steal will come from the PAC-12 and Nebraska and Illinois have work to do to keep Indiana or a bid stealer out. I guess I could see Florida and James Madison out instead of Ga Tech and KSU, but I really think at least one out of JMU and Troy gets in.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:29 am to
From D1's projections this morning:

Last Four In: Kansas State, James Madison, Georgia Tech, California
First Four Out: Troy, Northeastern, Coastal Carolina, Xavier
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:10 am to
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From D1's projections this morning: Last Four In: Kansas State, James Madison, Georgia Tech, California First Four Out: Troy, Northeastern, Coastal Carolina, Xavier


I guess I should have checked to see if it was still behind the paywall. So they have Cincinnati and Louisville out as well, which makes sense. JMU in over Coastal Carolina makes no sense at all. JMU was one game ahead in the conference standings, but Troy was one game ahead of them and they have them out. There’s no consistency there. Coastal won the series against JMU and is 9 spots higher in RPI. JMU has more Q1 wins thanks to ETSU being barely in the Top 60. Coastal is 13-16 against Q1/2 vs 10-16 for JMU.

Northeastern being out also doesn’t look right to me. They still have a high RPI at #33 and are 12-9 vs Q1/2. They should be in before JMU, KSU (13-20 Q1/2) and Ga Tech (14-17 Q1/2).

I guess I could see Ga Tech in ahead of one of the Sun Belt teams, but Northeastern should be in over KSU and Coastal in over JMU.
Posted by Traceg03
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:24 am to
I haven’t gotten to really look at it either because of work. Northeastern should be a lock IMO a bad tournament doesn’t take away from the regular season they had.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:20 pm to
This has no bearing on our situation, but Florida State is pretty fricking good. Outside of the SEC, they're the only team that really scares me.
Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:23 pm to
Agreed... want no part of a Tallahassee Regional/Super
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:54 pm to
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This has no bearing on our situation, but Florida State is pretty fricking good. Outside of the SEC, they're the only team that really scares me.


I think they're going to snag the final top 8 seed.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:08 pm to
Now that LSU has nothing to worry about as far as NCAAt bid stealers go, maybe we can start talking about the hot topic this week in this thread.

To the dreamers who believe LSU can potentially host a regional, LSU needs UK to win today so they get the opportunity to knock off RPI #1 UK tomorrow in the semis. Do that and win the SECt and then we can talk about the possibility of committee ignoring LSU’s 17 conference losses.

Still have plenty of teams to root against in this thread next couple days though if we’re going to consider that possibility:

•East Carolina win Friday
•Wake Forest win Friday against UNC
•UCSB clinch series and Big West auto-bid Friday
•Duke off today
•Vanderbilt plays UT on Saturday
•Mississippi State eliminated *still likely host over LSU since finished 4 games ahead of us and won H2H
•Dallas Baptist off today
•San Diego play Portland
•Southern Miss off today
•Louisiana Tech lost Friday *need to go 3-0 now to win CUSA tourney otherwise LSU could jump them
•Arizona advances to championship on Saturday
•Oregon St eliminated *honestly a long shot LSU would be given a host bid over them even if we did go 2-0 this weekend but leaving them on here since they aren’t a lock to host

those are the borderline 1 seeds and 2 seeds that are likely ahead of LSU right now given their full resumes if they were to win their conference tournaments too
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 11:47 pm
Posted by BleedPnG
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:33 pm to
Appreciate the breakdown, and what wrong with Dreaming?!?!?
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:36 pm to
Only two teams ever with a record of 15-15 hosted a regional and both won their conference tournament. No one worse than that has ever hosted.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Appreciate the breakdown, and what wrong with Dreaming?!?!?
nothing. I’ve given up the logical fight telling people we aren’t going to host but love analytics so going to do the breakdown anyway
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:47 pm to
That’s a lot of teams to jump over for the last 2-3 host spots. The more legitimate concern now is fighting for and holding onto a 2-seed.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:59 pm to
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That’s a lot of teams to jump over for the last 2-3 host spots.

yes definitely. Figured by laying it out like that and showing all the 1-seeds that aren’t host locks and all the 2-seeds ahead of us some would see why it’s practically impossible for us to host.

Even if some of those teams don’t win their tournaments - like in the case of Oregon St who is already eliminated - it’s still highly unlikely we would jump them. In order to host LSU would need all but maybe 1 of those teams to lose their conference tournaments.
Posted by Traceg03
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:09 pm to
I plan on starting to compile stats (offensive/ pitching / defense) of every non SEC team that’ll be in the regionals so that I can quickly make a regional breakdown once we get announced.

That is unless Mike wants to take that thunder since he’s on top of his game.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 3:10 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:24 pm to
At this point, the 1-seeds are going to be coming from the top 20 in the RPI. The Top 20 teams are locks for a 1 or 2-seed except maybe Vandy. That leave 13 2-seeds up for grabs. The 19 teams below are the contenders based on some combination of RPI, conference record, and overall record.

LSU: 39-20 (13-17) RPI: 22
Vandy: 38-20 (13-17) RPI: 18
S Carolina: 35-22 (13-17) RPI: 21
Alabama: 33-22 (13-17) RPI: 23
DBU: 41-13 (17-7) RPI: 24
UC-Irvine: 42-11 (21-7) RPI: 25
San Diego: 38-13 (20-4) RPI: 26
La Tech: 42-15 (18-6) RPI: 27
USM: 39-18 (20-10) RPI: 29
Arizona: 34-21 (20-10) RPI: 30
Nebraska: 35-20 (16-8) RPI: 31
W Virginia: 33-22 (19-11) RPI: 37
ULL: 40-18 (23-7) RPI: 38
Illinois: 34-18 (18-6) RPI: 40
Charleston: 40-12 (21-5) RPI: 41
UConn: 32-23 (17-4) RPI: 42
UNCW: 37-19 (20-7) RPI: 44
Texas: 35-22 (20-10) RPI: 46
Oregon: 37–18 (19-11) RPI: 50

Texas and Oregon probably played their way out of a 2-seed this weekend, but they are still possibilities if the committee leans heavily into their conference records. The SEC teams have the worst conference records, but the best RPIs and the most Q1 wins.

- LSU has the most Q1/2 wins on this list with 21. USM and WVU are next with 18.
- LSU is the only one with more Q1/2 wins than total losses (21-20). USM has 18 each and DBU 13 each.
- UC-Irvine has the best Q1/2 record at 10-3 but has 8 Q3/4 losses.
- LSU is tied with several others for the fewest Q3/4 losses with 2.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:34 pm to
Oklahoma walks off Kansas to advance to the Big 12 championship.
Posted by Traceg03
LA
Member since Jun 2018
999 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:14 pm to
Louisville went 0-2 which should end their season.

I will be interested to see if Georgia Tech gets in. Both those team came in on the bubble and both went 0-2
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:14 pm to
Cranford was robbed of clearing the bases in the 8th when it was 6-6.

Tough end to the season. 31-23 and 70s RPI will do it




This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 6:16 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Louisville went 0-2 which should end their season. I will be interested to see if Georgia Tech gets in. Both those team came in on the bubble and both went 0-2


Xavier’s loss to Georgetown to finish 1-2 in the Big East tournament probably puts them out as well. They still have a good RPI at #38, but they finished 30-27 and 4th in conference. I don’t see the Big East getting 3 bids.

Troy is down 10-3 in the 9th, which should put the final nail in their coffin as well. As to Georgia Tech, I think they should be out already, but I suspect another stolen bid will do them in.
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