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Comparative LSU team stats 2023 vs 2024 and also including final 4 teams
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:00 pm
Offense
Yards per rush
2023 - 6.2 - (1st)
2024 - 4.1 - (76th)
Notre Dame - 6.1 (2nd)
Penn St. - 5.3 (18th)
Ohio St. - 5.1 (24th)
Texas - 4.5 (55th)
Yards per pass attempt
2023 - 10.8 (1st)
2024 - 7.6 (44th)
Ohio St. - 9.2 (5th)
Penn St. - 8.5 (12th)
Texas - 8.3 (19th)
Notre Dame - 6.9 (86th)
Points per game
2023 - 43.3 (1st)
2024 - 29.3 (49th)
Notre Dame - 37.7 (3rd)
Ohio St. - 36.4 (6th)
Texas - 34.3 (15th)
Penn St. - 33.7 (19th)
Defense
Yards allowed per rush
2023 - 4.4 (84th)
2024 - 4.3 (65th)
Ohio St. - 2.7 (2nd)
Penn St. - 3.1 (8th)
Texas - 3.2 (12th)
Notre Dame - 3.6 (20th)
Yards allowed per pass attempt
2023 - 8.1 (111th)
2024 - 7.8 (91st)
Texas - 5.5 (1st)
Ohio St. - 5.8 (2nd)
Notre Dame - 5.8 (3rd)
Penn St. - 6.3 (21st)
Points allowed per game
2023 - 29.5 (86th)
2024 - 24.6 (53rd)
Ohio St. - 12.1 (1st)
Notre Dame - 13.6 (2nd)
Texas - 14.5 (3rd)
Penn St. - 15.8 (5th)
These stats are for all games against FBS opponents.
Final four teams are in top 24 in every category except Texas rushing offense and Notre Dame passing offense.
Final four teams are all in top 5 points allowed.
LSU improved on defense but more improvement is needed.
Offense had nowhere to go but down and was good passing but disappointing rushing.
Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas were obviously great.
Portal and HS class seem to be bringing in more talent. Have to get them ready with coaching and good schemes.
Yards per rush
2023 - 6.2 - (1st)
2024 - 4.1 - (76th)
Notre Dame - 6.1 (2nd)
Penn St. - 5.3 (18th)
Ohio St. - 5.1 (24th)
Texas - 4.5 (55th)
Yards per pass attempt
2023 - 10.8 (1st)
2024 - 7.6 (44th)
Ohio St. - 9.2 (5th)
Penn St. - 8.5 (12th)
Texas - 8.3 (19th)
Notre Dame - 6.9 (86th)
Points per game
2023 - 43.3 (1st)
2024 - 29.3 (49th)
Notre Dame - 37.7 (3rd)
Ohio St. - 36.4 (6th)
Texas - 34.3 (15th)
Penn St. - 33.7 (19th)
Defense
Yards allowed per rush
2023 - 4.4 (84th)
2024 - 4.3 (65th)
Ohio St. - 2.7 (2nd)
Penn St. - 3.1 (8th)
Texas - 3.2 (12th)
Notre Dame - 3.6 (20th)
Yards allowed per pass attempt
2023 - 8.1 (111th)
2024 - 7.8 (91st)
Texas - 5.5 (1st)
Ohio St. - 5.8 (2nd)
Notre Dame - 5.8 (3rd)
Penn St. - 6.3 (21st)
Points allowed per game
2023 - 29.5 (86th)
2024 - 24.6 (53rd)
Ohio St. - 12.1 (1st)
Notre Dame - 13.6 (2nd)
Texas - 14.5 (3rd)
Penn St. - 15.8 (5th)
These stats are for all games against FBS opponents.
Final four teams are in top 24 in every category except Texas rushing offense and Notre Dame passing offense.
Final four teams are all in top 5 points allowed.
LSU improved on defense but more improvement is needed.
Offense had nowhere to go but down and was good passing but disappointing rushing.
Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas were obviously great.
Portal and HS class seem to be bringing in more talent. Have to get them ready with coaching and good schemes.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 2:01 pm
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:05 pm to NorthEndZone
This is honestly very telling and a good perspective on how we stacked up to legitimate national championship contending teams. Much appreciated.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:10 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
Points per game
2023 - 43.3 (1st)
2024 - 29.3 (49th)
Notre Dame - 37.7 (3rd)
Ohio St. - 36.4 (6th)
Texas - 34.3 (15th)
Penn St. - 33.7 (19th)
Gotta get the RZ offense going and that begins with rush offense which was last in the SEC.
quote:
Defense
Yards allowed per rush
2023 - 4.4 (84th)
2024 - 4.3 (65th)
Ohio St. - 2.7 (2nd)
Penn St. - 3.1 (8th)
Texas - 3.2 (12th)
Notre Dame - 3.6 (20th)
Yards allowed per pass attempt
2023 - 8.1 (111th)
2024 - 7.8 (91st)
Texas - 5.5 (1st)
Ohio St. - 5.8 (2nd)
Notre Dame - 5.8 (3rd)
Penn St. - 6.3 (21st)
Points allowed per game
2023 - 29.5 (86th)
2024 - 24.6 (53rd)
Ohio St. - 12.1 (1st)
Notre Dame - 13.6 (2nd)
Texas - 14.5 (3rd)
Penn St. - 15.8 (5th)
These speak for themselves. Defense improved, but is miles from where it needs to be for a championship run. I really like what's coming in talent wise and we retain a talented staff so I think we see a nice jump in defense next season.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:10 pm to LSBoosie
quote:
good perspective on how we stacked up to legitimate national championship contending teams
The only question I have with my own comparison is how strength of schedule impacts these numbers. But including the two playoff rounds likely evens out some of the SOS at least somewhat.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:11 pm to NorthEndZone
If LSU cuts down on mistakes on offense and sees a similar jump on defense from 24-25 as they did from 23-24 next year should be pretty special.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:21 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
The only question I have with my own comparison is how strength of schedule impacts these numbers. But including the two playoff rounds likely evens out some of the SOS at least somewhat.
SOS as of December 2nd. So only regular season and before conference championship games were played:
LSU - 6th
Ohio State - 8th
Texas - 9th
Notre Dame - 19th
Penn State - 20th
Current SOS:
LSU - 7th
Ohio State - 2nd
Texas - 3rd
Notre Dame - 14th
Penn State - 16th
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:24 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
Yards per rush
2023 - 6.2 - (1st)
2024 - 4.1 - (76th)
Notre Dame - 6.1 (2nd)
Interesting Denbrock impact. Any chance you can separate these to just RBs?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:25 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
Offense Yards per rush 2023 - 6.2 - (1st)
And now as Paul Harvey used to say...the rest of the story. Without Jayden Daniels amazing 8.4 ypc, LSU's RB rushing offense drops dramatically to 5.3 ypc.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:29 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:
Interesting Denbrock impact. Any chance you can separate these to just RBs?
I'd imagine that has almost nothing to do with Denbrock and everything to do with Daniels.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:35 pm to wadewilson
Which is why I'd want to see the RB breakout. Obviously Daniels makes up most of that. But Denbrock is 2nd in the nation in YPC without Daniels this year
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:44 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:
But Denbrock is 2nd in the nation in YPC without Daniels this year
That tells me they had some good RB's and shitty opponents.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:53 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:
Any chance you can separate these to just RBs?
in 2023, LSU running backs had 294 carries for 1524 yards (5.2 ypc).
In 2024, LSU running backs had 326 carries for 1457 yards (4.5 ypc)
However, having to account for Daniels pulling opened up a ton of alleys for our running backs. This year, teams didn't have to respect Nussmeier busting a big running play
But for the people talking about Denbrock, compare Notre Dame's passing numbers to ours this year.
LSU: 344/534, 4097 yards, 7.7 ypa
Notre Dame: 253/382, 2648 yards, 6.9 ypa
yards per play totals:
LSU: 6.2
Notre Dame: 6.4
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:53 pm to wadewilson
Curious as to why you jumped to that conclusion? You may be right but any OC who has the #1/#2 rushing offense 2 years in a row with 2 different teams shouldn't just be dismissed right away as "good RB's and shitty opponents." So do you have some evidence to back that up or are you just refusing to give a guy credit out of spite
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:00 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Well ND's YPP is 86th, so they're not getting anywhere with that passing offense.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:03 pm to wadewilson
That's not really relevant to the discussion on yards per rush. Unless you're insinuating that maybe they weren't playing shitty defenses after all
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:05 pm to Yeti_Chaser
If their offense is one dimensional and they're still in the playoffs with that strong of a rushing offense, that tells me they might be smashing up on weaker competition.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:11 pm to lsufball19
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However, having to account for Daniels pulling opened up a ton of alleys for our running backs.
It also helps when you have a deep threat that can stretch the field. LSU did not have that until late in the year with Hilton.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:11 pm to wadewilson
Gotcha yea maybe but their SOS is 14th with 2 playoff wins and an SEC road win. It's pretty impressive to be 3rd in PPG with such a bad passing offense. That could also signal that he's just adapting the offense to what he has. There's 100 different ways to view these numbers
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:14 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Yeah, and I'm just shooting from the hip too.
Denbrock is not any kind of superstar, but our offense definitely seemed to be a little more comfortable taking what was given with him calling it, even in 2022.
Maybe some of that is on Nuss trying to force too much, but I do think we would have been a little better off this year, were we able to keep Denbrock.
Denbrock is not any kind of superstar, but our offense definitely seemed to be a little more comfortable taking what was given with him calling it, even in 2022.
Maybe some of that is on Nuss trying to force too much, but I do think we would have been a little better off this year, were we able to keep Denbrock.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:38 pm to NotaStarGazer
Also, the 2023 running back rushing totals or inflated because of the threat of Jaden Daniels running the ball. 2024 running back rushing totals would have improved if Nussmeier was any threat at all to run the football but he wasn’t
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