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re: College playoff selection committee- wk 2

Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
14466 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:20 pm to
No, because you are dismissing the the 34 point boat race as just another loss.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19207 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

What looks better?
Team A:
Close home win vs. #11
Close home loss vs. #1
34 point Blowout loss @ #3

Team B:
Close home win vs. #5
Close home loss vs. #3
Close road loss @ #16



You're missing a very important stat. Team A beat Team B, so in a discussion of who is a better team on the field, it's clearly the team who beat the other one.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:19 am to
It doesn't matter where LSU is ranked currently, because games are left to be played. What does matter is the precedent the committee is setting in their selection process.

Head to head records apparently don't matter, and they have specifically stated that margin of victory (or loss) wouldn't matter, but it obviously does.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:10 am to
I think you misunderstood whatever you are quoting (Link please?)..

I doubt they intended for margin of victory to mean NOTHING. I think they were saying they would not award style points for stat padding. But getting blown out is not the same as losing by 3.
How could you think otherwise?
Posted by demtigers73
Member since Aug 2014
5973 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:12 am to
Horse shite!! Win saturday and all will be right!
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:53 am to
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2209 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:05 am to
I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be the popular answer, but I am glad we are no where the top 10. This years team is no where ready for the playoffs, I would much rather go to a decent bowl this year without the added pressure of playoffs on this young team.

Next year though.....we should be ready to handle our business.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86425 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:08 am to
quote:

No, because you are dismissing the the 34 point boat race as just another loss.
Let's say I am, which isn't true. The two teams played each other. Your take is unsupportable. It's objectively dumb.

•Championships won
•Strength of schedule
•Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
•Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19547 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:11 am to
Humans suck
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19547 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:12 am to
When head to head gets factored out freak college football
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:56 am to
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It's not some conspiracy


I'm not suggesting it is, but there is something wrong, if you go by the committee's own criteria, in their ranking of Old Miss at 5 spots better than LSU. There is simply nothing in their own rating criteria which justifies that 5 spot difference.

Yes, it will probably all work out in the end, but if they can be this off, again, going by their own listed criteria, why shouldn't we worry bout Dec. when they give us the final top 4?

Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23241 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:03 am to
If losses count for more than wins.... all I can say is you play to win the game
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6876 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Bitching about rankings when we are about to play Alabama in a few days is retarded.

Sets up perfectly for us when we beat Bama, especially the way Herbie was saying Alabama is really the best team in the country right now. He thinks they're going all the way, and we can squash that shite this weekend.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Sets up perfectly for us when we beat Bama


You are assuming, IF LSU wins, a #16, 2 L LSU will move in front of a #5, at this time, 2 L Bama. How is that working out for us right now with Old Miss?

Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6876 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:21 am to
quote:

You are assuming, IF LSU wins, a #16, 2 L LSU will move in front of a #5, at this time, 2 L Bama. How is that working out for us right now with Old Miss?

I didn't say we'd move ahead of Bama. I said their ranking would be hurt and they would'nt be so worshipped. Things have to fall out just right, but a defeated Bama will find it hard to beat #1. In that case we'd be on our way up, assuming we win out.

And FYI, when speaking about our win over Bama, the word IF is no longer allowed this week. All in for a Bama Beatdown!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19754 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:04 am to
quote:

The day when judging two teams based how they faired against a third team, instead of how they did against one another, is a dark retarded day


A hypothetical:

Team A is 0-7 and has lost every game by 20+ points.
Team B is 7-0 and has won every game by 20+ points.

They both have a common opponent.

Team A then beats Team B in a driving rainstorm 3-0.

Do you rank Team A above Team B, just because of the head-to-head victory???

Of course not, you must consider the entire body of work of a team. Sure, head-to-head games are very important, but they can also be an aberration.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:37 am to
Only in this case, LSU and Ole Miss have identical records.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

TOTAL BULL



the whole committee is a joke
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3147 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:36 pm to
I'm gonna love it, when we beat Bama, and they're still ranked ahead of us
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46255 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:48 pm to
quote:


It doesn't matter where LSU is ranked currently, because games are left to be played. What does matter is the precedent the committee is setting in their selection process.


It has everything to do with where we are ranked because of the precedent they are setting.
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