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re: Colin Cowherd said that LSU is best job in America for acquiring talent

Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3221 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:08 pm to
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I love me some LSU but I can't imagine why Alabama would be harder to recruit at than LSU.

Alabama has to recruit nationally and they have to compete with Auburn for the in state talent they have. Louisiana produces way better talent than the state of Alabama. You hardly never hear about LSU recruiting Alabama but you always hear about them recruiting Louisiana
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:21 pm to
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we need to stop settling......


Absolutely.Like the TV commercial I like thousands like me don't want to be " settlers" and grow vegetables in our yards, churn our own butter, weave our own clothes nor do we want a Heisman player to run up the gut and do dive plays.

We saw what happened when Etling came in with a wide open passing game. No need looking for more proof of what is wrong.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5175 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 5:55 am to
It's debatable. There are other programs that could legitimately make the claim, but LSU is definitely one of the top programs for acquiring talent, and I think many Louisiana recruits have unique qualities that you don't find anywhere else in the country. Even a lot of guys who weren't big-time recruits go to other schools around the country and make big impacts for their programs. I saw one such guy last night playing receiver for the Houston Cougars -- Steven Dunbar from Metairie, Louisiana. UH didn't get him the ball much last night, but he played a big role (7 Catches, 125 Yards) in their win over Oklahoma. He's a playmaker.

There are some tweaks here and there that I think could improve recruiting from where it's at currently, but I look at the 2016 LSU Roster and I see an extraordinary amount of talent, but I also see some missed opportunities. I see older guys who have developed into great veteran players -- guys like Tre'Davious White and Travin Dural. I think it's a damn shame that Dural hasn't had more opportunities to get the ball so far this year. D.J. Chark, too -- he's got some serious spring in his legs. And despite the issues at QB, both Dural and Chark have shown game-breaking ability in the run game when they've had opportunities in the past.

I was glad that DeSean Smith got a chance to catch that TD pass vs. Jacksonville State, but I don't understand why plays like that are such a rarity in the LSU Offense, and it doesn't make sense to me considering how often the TEs are on the field. Look at what Wisconsin was able to do vs. LSU with Troy Fumagalli (7 Catches, 100 Yards) -- safe, easy passes for their young QB and Fumagalli was getting YAC and finishing on the LSU DBs with power. I don't understand why Jeter plays as much as he does. No disrespect to him, but LSU could potentially have a playmaker and/or a big-time blocker at the position. Jeter is neither.

I think it would be fun for LSU and college football fans in general if LSU utilized its offensive firepower more fully in a variety of ways, which does not necessitate a slowdown in the run game.
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 6:00 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25895 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:27 am to
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Colin Cowherd said that LSU is best job in America for acquiring talent




Thank you DOW for dumping your chemicals into our water systems. Its doing work!
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16106 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:52 am to
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Bama has Auburn to compete with...also surrounded by SEC schools


Bama doesn't need Alabama talent to get the best classes in the country. They, like USC and Note Dame, can recruit coast to coast. Bama doesn't really have to recruit talent, what they do is SELECT talent. There is a difference there. But for just a regular program< LSU is in a pretty good recruiting situation other than when it comes to OL's, LB's. and QB's. We are in a good recruiting situation for DB's, DL's to some extent, RB's, and WR's.
Posted by Purple Berries
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2016
234 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:09 am to
I definitely think it is time to replace miles, but the excessive negativity of our fan base does us no favors. It hurts recruiting, morale and makes the season much less fun.

I have some optimism that this season could still turn into something special

Serious question, how many big programs have replaced winning coaches with another winning coach?

I can think of Ohio state.

I can also think of a bunch that took a while to get back to winning at the level they were before: Texas, Tennessee, Michigan, Nebraska. Florida has done it a couple times (but their successful coaches left voluntarily), USC w

If we could get jimbo or Herman, I think we would be in good shape. But from what I hear, both sound like long shots. I could see us missing on them, bringing in a 2nd tier option, then looking for another coach after 2-3 years

With the new reason for optimism at QB, We have all the tools to win now. Let's get on board
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69502 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:34 am to
we need to regain control of the Houston area. A&M and Houston may start hurting us there
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3534 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:37 am to
Imagine if LSU had another coach the last 5 years that actually knew how to coach!!wow!
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:50 am to
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we need to regain control of the Houston area. A&M and Houston may start hurting us there


When have we ever really "controlled" Houston? Yeah, we may get a couple guys from there each cycle, but that's A&M and Texas territory. There's just a ton of talent in the area, and some Louisiana transplants.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5903 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:54 am to
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I can also think of a bunch that took a while to get back to winning at the level they were before: Texas, Tennessee, Michigan, Nebraska. Florida has done it a couple times (but their successful coaches left voluntarily), USC w


All those schools let their recruiting suffer before making a change and some were on probation. LSU has had 4 top 6 classes in a row and has a top 5 one lined up for 2017. There are more coaches than just Jimbo or Herman who could win with that talent.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52002 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:56 am to
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quote: Miles has it easy and still can't win They win despite him.


Guys, this is stupid. Miles is, at worst, the fourth most successful coach we've ever had. Only Dietzel, Saban and Arnsparger could be considered better.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69502 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:00 am to
never controlled but usually do pretty well in that area.
Posted by Purple Berries
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2016
234 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:04 am to
But les brings in that talent. Les kept the Ferrari tuned and running after he was handed the keys.

Muschamp was handed some pretty stacked recruiting classes at Florida after urban. Didn't work out too well for him
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:06 am to
" Miles has it easy and still can't win."

LSU has more wins since 05 then any other power five program but for Oregon.

Anyone who believes that any school recruits for itself is SEC/college football mentally challenged. All you have to do is look at the difficulty programs such as a Michigan, Tennessee, Miami, USC, and Texas have had in winning big to know that the LSU recruits for itself BS is just that .....BS.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85693 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:42 am to
No qbs in this state.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:42 am to
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never controlled but usually do pretty well in that area.


Eric Monroe
Corey Thompson
Toby Weathersby

Skimming through the roster, these are the only 3 players we've signed from the Houston area. I didn't bother to look and see where all the walk ons are from. With Strong at Texas, Sumlin can recruit, and Herman at UH, it's gotten tougher in that area the past few years. I don't remember it exactly, but during the UH-OU game, they kept showing a stat where UH's players come from an average of like 30 miles from the campus, and the average for D1 schools was around 300 miles(I think). That right there shows you Herman is trying to lock down Houston, and he's doing a pretty good job of it.

ETA: We actually do a lot better in the Dallas area, and have since Mike's got here. I guess he knew the area well from his days at OSU.
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 8:45 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85693 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:43 am to
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Guys, this is stupid. Miles is, at worst, the fourth most successful coach we've ever had. Only Dietzel, Saban and Arnsparger could be considered better.


Dietzal and Miles are the only two coaches to finish AP #1.

Let that sink in.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85693 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:46 am to
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but I don't understand why plays like that are such a rarity in the LSU Offense,


Because you finally saw a qb not throw it to #15 15 times a game.

The plays to the te have been there all along. Qb has to make them.
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 8:48 am
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5175 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:46 am to
DeSean Smith hasn't even been on the field enough during his LSU career for that "been there all along" comment to make sense. But yeah, to some extent, you can say that lack of TE involvement is a result of decisions by the QBs, but at some point, coaches could make passes to the TE more of a focal point for the QBs, but personnel goes right along with this, which I mentioned.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71996 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:53 am to
I can't even come close to fathoming what Saban would've done if he stayed nor what a guy like Herman could do at LSU.

Hopefully Herman listens to Colin Cowherd's show
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 9:54 am
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