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Clark is sucking at middle linebacker but he can run

Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:18 am
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54506 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:18 am
Damn i was like wtf this guy can track down a running back 50 yards down the field but can't make a flipping tackle anywhere close to the line of scrimmage. Just my thought of the day
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3110 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:20 am to
He’s athletic as they come but he needs to be benched
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22144 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:32 am to
He doesn’t know the position. That’s on the coaches.
Posted by ewilliams000
Castor Springs
Member since Feb 2012
1952 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:36 am to
He was chasing a TE. Thats why he caught him.
Posted by Tmcnair96
Member since Dec 2016
403 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:38 am to
At this point, I'll just send Clark on a blitz every play. His reads are off and he's always late.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:40 am to
I would send him to the transfer portal, though I dont know if he would be good enough to start anywhere else. Maybe learn a trade or something.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22311 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:46 am to
He doesn’t have what they refer to as “closing speed”

When you don’t have closing speed and/or the instincts to read a play, you end up 40 yds downfield in pass coverage, and/or making tackles 50 yards downfield

We saw both last night from #18
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
3400 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:48 am to
thats like saying a short stop is great at everything but fielding
Posted by LSUCOLLEGECHAMPS
Member since Apr 2020
2516 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:50 am to
Straight-line speed, His instincts, lateral speed, and angles are terrible.
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
13687 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:54 am to
Put him at WDE and Baskerville takes his spot

Pretty simple to me
Posted by JBREAUX4LSU
Dallas, TX
Member since Jun 2009
1708 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:11 am to
I’m hoping Josh White takes over on the inside and Clark may find a home on the outside
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3731 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to
DE s are not holding the edge. None of them.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12896 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:10 pm to
I've been saying since the MSST game Clark is fine physically. And that he's anything but slow. However...

A) he's play keeps making me want to reconsider those statements; "don't trust your lying eyes" type situation.

B) consider that he's a "practice pete" and performance isn't translating to the game.

So I keep mulling over that IF A and/or B isn't true, why?

It's the reads, more specifically LB keys, inherent to a 4-3 system.

In Aranda's system (or 3-4 in general) we all know DL [most often] are supposed to eat, or more accurately, re-direct blockers freeing up LBs for gap control. So in a 3-4 the LBs have to key on the ball or eligible personnel because if it works right you can't read blocks or flow (because your DL is disrupting it).

In a 4-3 the DL has gap control. They are supposed to defeat blocks so the blocking flow isn't disrupted, just defeated. Commonly LBs are supposed to read this blocking flow and cover their gaps (or more commonly their LoS zones which is multiple gaps based on proper angles). So the LBs are reading what the blocking itself is doing first.

So three things.....
1. Clark having been with Aranda's 3-4 since he arrived at LSU is struggling to transition to a new key system. He's been trained since the beginning to read his DL then attack his gaps, and no one elses. Now he's being asked to read their OL, diagnose his gaps, then go to the ball.

2. That difference in key types also changes your first step. To an OL blocking a LB angles are everything, because they move faster than you do. This won't make sense to some, but if you've ever had to do it, it will... A LB that takes first step up, like a LB in a 3-4 assigned a gap will, shortens your angle and if he's on the wrong side of you as an OL it might be harder to get a good angle on him. There's ways to do it, but it just makes your life more difficult as an OL AND they are reacting faster so you have less time to do it. For a LB in a 4-3 their first step might be lateral. And if it happens to be to the side that allows you to get your head on the angle-side of your block that LB just made your life easier. In a 4-3, where the LB is keying on the flow of blocking and can be fooled by eye candy and misdirection they often make that first step laterally in the wrong direction, get out of position, AND generate better angles for the OL.

3. If you as a LB in a 4-3 who is relying on DL for primary gap control and you get out of position that means someone else, usually the LB next to you or the S, is now by inherent design also out of position. And so it dominos.

I think Clark is having major issues with his keys, making a first wrong step laterally, and it is affecting the others around him. And that's why he looks slow.

ETA: and I should add that often a "wrong first step" isn't made with feet. You can make it with your eyes... or... not making a step at all can be the "wrong step". Standing flatfooted watching the wrong thing or eye candy is a OL's dream. Our DBs are also doing this.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

DE s are not holding the edge. None of them
yep. frustrating. they have the ability. they just aren't doing it. i don't know what the problem is
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39273 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Put him at WDE and Baskerville takes his spot

Pretty simple to me

EVERYTHING is simple to a simpleton. A lot of posters in this thread are going to be eating crow.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:18 pm to
Really disappointed in his play thus far. He’s a better athlete.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:31 pm to
Suck is being nice!
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:53 pm to
Tepperini has him all out of sorts
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:57 pm to
He’s had plenty of time
N the program under great Lbers. Idk something’s not processing right. If he doesn’t get it together it will be tough to turn the season around. He’s not attacking w physicality he’s late to the ball had angles never seems to be a “qb” of the D lining ppl up. Maybe he should be a situational pass rusher and get someone who can process a litttle quicker
Posted by TigerCrude
Member since Oct 2019
1878 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 4:59 pm to
So move him to safety and move Stevens to middle line backer is what you’re saying.
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