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Chest and Vyc Miller
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:44 am
I don’t care what Hunt and Moscona say! 3-13 doesn’t matter, injuries don’t matter in this case! Losing Chest and Vyc hurt!
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:46 am to manonwheels28
The Mcmen don’t agree for now give them 10 months and they will and use it as another excuse
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:52 am to Big4SALTbro
quote:McXcuses.
The Mcmen don’t agree for now give them 10 months and they will and use it as another excuse
Anyone that didn't want to keep Vyctorius and Chest for next season is full of shite.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:53 am to Big4SALTbro
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The Mcmen don’t agree for now give them 10 months and they will and use it as another excuse
This is 100% true.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:55 am to manonwheels28
We'll miss Chest for sure. Hopefully can put together an NIL package to get him to stay.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:55 am to manonwheels28
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Losing Chest and Vyc hurt!
It was pathetic that McMahon did not kick them off the team during the season.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:00 pm to CatfishJohn
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Hopefully can put together an NIL package to get him to stay.
McMonotone has already said hes not rerecruiting anyone who enters the portal.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:02 pm to LSUbasketballfan
I agree here, if they had been contacted and were sitting out not due to injury McLoser has no balls for not kicking them
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:06 pm to manonwheels28
Lady Scone and Hunty are just following the script from the administration.
"The Big Time".
"The Big Time".
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:12 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:He also said this...
“I’m certainly not looking to re-recruit or bring anyone back once they’ve made that decision,” McMahon said. “Wish them all the very best.”
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“There’s been a great investment in men’s basketball, and I think we’re really well positioned – not only from a retention standpoint, but the ability to go out and sign the players in the transfer portal that are going to come in here and impact winning, and allow us to build a NCAA Tournament team.”
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:14 pm to manonwheels28
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Losing Chest and Vyc hurt!
Of course, what young talent does CMM have to build around now? There are role players returning, but no one that you can build a team around.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:22 pm to manonwheels28
I'll jump in here.
The roster that was assembled for the 2024-25 season wasn't nearly good enough to compete in this SEC. Now, you're looking at a league that is about to put four or five teams in the elite 8 with another losing in overtime of the Sweet 16, but it wasn't good enough. Period.
Both Vyctorius Miller and Corey Chest have potential.
Chest is a great athlete who can really rebound. He doesn't, at this point, have another skill to offer. He's an average defender, horrendous shooter and cannot create with the ball on offense at all. At 6-foot-8, he's a little undersized for the skillset that he has. That sounds more like a seven footer. He's a role player.
Miller shows some flashes, but he shot 34% from the floor, 29% from three and 63% on free throws in league games. He created nine assists in 209 minutes on the floor. He's still a developmental player.
In this era of college basketball, what you might be able to do in 2 or 3 years doesn't really matter. What can you do right now?
Does losing these guys hurt? We can't know until we know who LSU replaces them with. THAT'S what ultimately matters.
Part of my job is understanding that I'll be mischaracterized half the time because people often hear what they want to hear instead of what I say.
I've never once said Matt McMahon was close to "turning a corner". I've never excused 3-15. In fact, I think it's misguided to have strong conviction that LSU will be a good basketball team next year. I also think that it's worth spending with the rest of the league this offseason to see if McMahon can 1. assemble a better team and 2. coach it.
If he can't (which is a real possibility), ok. Go get a new coach. If he can....great. You've found that out, and now you saved the $10mm to buy him out and $3mm/year to hire the new guy and staff.
I'm saddened by the state of LSU basketball. I LOVED the Wade era. It may have been indirectly helpful in my landing a dream job.
I'm also capable of evaluating the reality of LSU basketball without crying about three years ago in some hopes that I can go back in time.
To me personally, discussing this transfer portal is more interesting and meaningful than rehashing Woodward v Wade 2021.
I may be dead wrong, but I don't think Vyc Miller, Corey Chest or any of the other guys in the portal are key pieces to a 2025-26 team that wins 11 or 12 SEC games. Maybe a 7th man. you can find a new 7th man from Iona or Ohio or Morehead State or North Florida (those are literally where the best players in the SEC came from).
I'll wait until the roster is complete before I assess the departures. And I'll probably err the side of optimism in May. We'll see in November/December.
Back to baseball.
The roster that was assembled for the 2024-25 season wasn't nearly good enough to compete in this SEC. Now, you're looking at a league that is about to put four or five teams in the elite 8 with another losing in overtime of the Sweet 16, but it wasn't good enough. Period.
Both Vyctorius Miller and Corey Chest have potential.
Chest is a great athlete who can really rebound. He doesn't, at this point, have another skill to offer. He's an average defender, horrendous shooter and cannot create with the ball on offense at all. At 6-foot-8, he's a little undersized for the skillset that he has. That sounds more like a seven footer. He's a role player.
Miller shows some flashes, but he shot 34% from the floor, 29% from three and 63% on free throws in league games. He created nine assists in 209 minutes on the floor. He's still a developmental player.
In this era of college basketball, what you might be able to do in 2 or 3 years doesn't really matter. What can you do right now?
Does losing these guys hurt? We can't know until we know who LSU replaces them with. THAT'S what ultimately matters.
Part of my job is understanding that I'll be mischaracterized half the time because people often hear what they want to hear instead of what I say.
I've never once said Matt McMahon was close to "turning a corner". I've never excused 3-15. In fact, I think it's misguided to have strong conviction that LSU will be a good basketball team next year. I also think that it's worth spending with the rest of the league this offseason to see if McMahon can 1. assemble a better team and 2. coach it.
If he can't (which is a real possibility), ok. Go get a new coach. If he can....great. You've found that out, and now you saved the $10mm to buy him out and $3mm/year to hire the new guy and staff.
I'm saddened by the state of LSU basketball. I LOVED the Wade era. It may have been indirectly helpful in my landing a dream job.
I'm also capable of evaluating the reality of LSU basketball without crying about three years ago in some hopes that I can go back in time.
To me personally, discussing this transfer portal is more interesting and meaningful than rehashing Woodward v Wade 2021.
I may be dead wrong, but I don't think Vyc Miller, Corey Chest or any of the other guys in the portal are key pieces to a 2025-26 team that wins 11 or 12 SEC games. Maybe a 7th man. you can find a new 7th man from Iona or Ohio or Morehead State or North Florida (those are literally where the best players in the SEC came from).
I'll wait until the roster is complete before I assess the departures. And I'll probably err the side of optimism in May. We'll see in November/December.
Back to baseball.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:29 pm to Hunt the Fan
quote:This contradicts the CoachMc narrative that has been constantly regurgitated on this board - give CoachMc time to bring in his players and develop them, he had zero players to start, you can't turn the full roster over in a season and expect to win, etc. etc.
In this era of college basketball, what you might be able to do in 2 or 3 years doesn't really matter. What can you do right now?
Now it's - let them go, no one sticks around to be developed, we can turn the whole roster around in one season.
Absolute zero consistency to the thoughts. Just whatever which way the wind is blowing on a certain day.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:33 pm to drizztiger
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Anyone that didn't want to keep Vyctorius and Chest for next season is full of shite.
Of course, anyone who is reasonable wants to keep them. How much it hurts will be dictated by who we get to replace them. I can't say I am all that hopefully we get anything better than what we are losing.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:36 pm to drizztiger
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This contradicts the CoachMc narrative that has been constantly regurgitated on this board - give CoachMc time to bring in his players and develop them, he had zero players to start, you can't turn the full roster over in a season and expect to win, etc. etc.
Now it's - let them go, no one sticks around to be developed, we can turn the whole roster around in one season.
Absolute zero consistency to the thoughts. Just whatever which way the wind is blowing on a certain day.
Pretty simple. Both Brian Kelly and Matt McMahon came in with the approach that they wanted to recruit and develop high school players and add a little out of the portal. Both have completely flipped that after two years.
I don't think that's some sort of wild contradiction. I think it's a change in philosophy based on experience.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:39 pm to mdomingue
quote:That's the trick - finding out who thinks reasonably.
Of course, anyone who is reasonable wants to keep them.
A few days ago, the story being told was with Vyc and Chest back, along with some others, we have a decent young core for CoachMc to worth with and add to with the incoming freshman and NIL $$ portal.
Now the story from some are, let Chest and Vyc go, we didn't need them anyway, they were overrated and each only brought unneeded rebounding and potential scoring, respectively.
These dudes are bi-polar or something.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:44 pm to Hunt the Fan
quote:I don't have an issue with a change in direction or philosophy.
I don't think that's some sort of wild contradiction. I think it's a change in philosophy based on experience.
I have an issue with apologists at all costs using excuse after excuse for poor coaching and horrible basketball. They specifically told everyone CoachMc's way is building a program and it's going to work, just give him time - it's the best way to have a consistently successful program and if you don't agree, you're wrong. Now they change their tune because that strategy completely failed and CoachMc is bailing on his own philosophy, but they take zero ownership of being completely wrong.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:46 pm to Hunt the Fan
You’re a puppet and an imbecile.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:46 pm to Hunt the Fan
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also think that it's worth spending with the rest of the league this offseason to see if McMahon can 1. assemble a better team and 2. coach it.


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Back to baseball.
Yes, please stick to baseball. You're much better at that. And tell them to put you on more calls!
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