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Chavis deceptive departure to Texas A&M "screams NCAA rules violation"

Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:08 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:08 am
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He's trying to twist the calendar every way possible. First, he turned in his LSU resignation on Jan. 5 and his lawsuit against LSU claims his last day on the LSU payroll was Feb. 4.

Those dates give Chavis the required 30-day notice from LSU so he or Texas A&M don't have to pay the buyout. By not being off the LSU payroll until after Jan. 31, it would also prevent him or the Aggies from paying the buyout.

Yet, there are pictures of Chavis wearing Texas A&M gear while recruiting that hit the Internet Jan. 15 and Jan. 23. In the Jan. 23 photo, Chavis, dressed in a Texas A&M coaching pullover, is giving the camera two "thumbs up" while flanking Northeast Oklahoma Jr. College cornerback Justin Martin


"Chavis story has more holes than his 3rd down defense"

This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 8:33 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:11 am to
An issue which is not lost on LSU's legal team per reports they have asked Texas A&M to decide which way it wants to go: pay the buyout or be turned in for NCAA violations.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66343 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:12 am to
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This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by Earn Your Keep
Member since Nov 2013
1417 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:22 am to
LSU will receive ZERO assistance from the corrupt SEC HQ. In fact I'm quite certain they'll make every attempt to pursue whatever outcome is worse for LSU.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66343 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:23 am to
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LSU will receive ZERO assistance from the corrupt SEC HQ. In fact I'm quite certain they'll make every attempt to pursue whatever outcome is worse for LSU.


Good thing we are doing this in the courts.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12252 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:23 am to
Put Chavis and A&M on the spot. They have 2 choices: 1. Admit that he was employed by A&M in January and pay LSU $400,000.00 , or 2. Admit that he was employed by LSU until Feb and be guilty of recruiting violations. Which would you choose? As part of the lawsuit, LSU's lawyers could send them discovery documents forcing them to answer these questions within 15 days. The answers would be interesting.
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2094 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:24 am to
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they have asked Texas A&M to decide which way it wants to go: pay the buyout or be turned in for NCAA violations


I wish he had gone to Bama.



Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:41 am to
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An issue which is not lost on LSU's legal team per reports they have asked Texas A&M to decide which way it wants to go: pay the buyout or be turned in for NCAA violations.

We shouldn't even give them the choice. We should decide which option WE want and then pursue that one. I vote for sanctions.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25183 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:45 am to
Posted by kstev21
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
288 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:45 am to
Raise your hand if you think Coach O wasn't recruiting for us before he was officially hired
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:46 am to
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Raise your hand if you think Coach O wasn't recruiting for us before he was officially hired

There's a difference between not being employed by the school you're recruiting for and being employed by a rival of the school you're recruiting for.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:48 am to
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Im not a law student or anything,


believe me, that is a good thing. dey stupid
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:53 am to
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Raise your hand if you think Coach O wasn't recruiting for us before he was officially hired


May be splitting hairs some but there seems to be a difference between a currently engaged college coach and one who is not employed and seemingly free to engage in maintaining personal relationships built up in prior positions. Freedom of association would seem to be the most compelling argument.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:01 am to
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Raise your hand if you think Coach O wasn't recruiting for us before he was officially hired


Coach O wasn't employed by any school at the time and he was free to talk to whoever he wanted to talk to. Nothing wrong with continuing to keep your ties to certain places strong knowing that you'll eventually be back in the thick of recruiting those areas. He most likely just told certain people he was going to end up at LSU. Unlike Chavis, who worked for LSU and was recruiting for another school in the process. Not only is that a violation, it's a bullshite, underhanded move by that fat piece of shite. LSU more than compensated that cupcake eating bastard while he was here by making him the highest paid assistant in the NCAA until Muschamp got paid more. Then his little tears went to flying when we wouldn't match that and he tried to screw over the school by flipping kids to A&M before he was actually working for them. So, frick that guy and I hope A&M gets pissed for him dragging them into this situation with potential recruiting violation and fires his fat arse.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3614 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:02 am to
Could get interesting. The argument here is who he was employed by not if he was employed. Although he was out recruiting for A&M if his argument is correct that he was still technically an employee of LSU does the rule forbid him from recruiting for a team he's not employed by. I know that would not be the intention of the rule but it might be a loophole to avoid a violation.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:05 am to
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tigersbb
quote:

May be splitting hairs some but there seems to be a difference between a currently engaged college coach and one who is not employed and seemingly free to engage in maintaining personal relationships built up in prior positions. Freedom of association would seem to be the most compelling argument.


TAMU recruits are on record in print as saying he identified himself as TAMU's coach. I think it's also apparent than a notice of intent to resign a position is not, "I'm not working here anymore but my last day isn't for a few weeks so please let me do whatever the heck I want and get paid till then," notice.

Appearing with TAMU Coaches on recruiting visits in TAMU gear while trying to say he was still within his notice period gives you two options:

1.) You're either lying about your notice period and you quit earlier than that, in which you have no case.

2.) You did still consider yourself an LSU Coach and you breached your contract by actively harming LSU while recruiting season was still ongoing, in which you have no case in your suit and will be responsible for damages, nevermind being turned in for violations.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:05 am to
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Raise your hand if you think Coach O wasn't recruiting for us before he was officially hired



Where do you people go to school such that they have not yet disabused you of the fallacy of "using purported or assumed bad behavior to justify other bad behavior"?
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:07 am to
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kstev21
quote:

Raise your hand if you think Coach O wasn't recruiting for us before he was officially hired


Did Orgeron take pictures in LSU gear with potential USC targets and/or identify himself in any way to any potential student athletes as a coach at LSU?

Or did he go out of his way in print and radio to indicate he did not have a job and was not a coach at LSU and did not represent them in any way?

Chavis was a current coach. Orgeron was not a current, active coach. The two situation are completely non analogous.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:17 am to
Dear LSU:

Let it go.

Regards,

The Un-butthurt
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:21 am to
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CoachDon


Mix in a spacebar, Coarch.
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