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re: Changes coming to LSU infield

Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:51 am to
Posted by TTexas Tiger
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:51 am to
I would like to see Wyeth get more opportunities. He's hitting better and if the stats are correct he's 2 for 2 on stolen bases with 0 pass balls while Milazzo is 1 for 7 on stolen bases with one pass ball. At least give him more opportunities before SEC to see what you have.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:53 am to
Curious, where did you get those stats? Wyeth did not look good behind the plate the last two games he was in (one starting, one as a sub). He’s better at the plate but he’s very clearly behind Milazzo defensively.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:05 am to
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I would like to see Wyeth get more opportunities. He's hitting better and if the stats are correct he's 2 for 2 on stolen bases...while Milazzo is 1 for 7 on stolen bases
Wyeth has not attempted to steal a base this season and neither has Milazzo.

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This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:08 am to
Pretty easy to see from the context he’s referring to stolen base attempts against.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:09 am to
Wyath has thrown out 2 of 4 baserunners attempting to steal. Milazzo has thrown out 1 of 8. The official scorer can put a SB against the pitcher instead of catcher which they've done a few times but it's not enough.

Also, one of Wyath's was a ball that didn't reach the rubber.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:10 am to
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Pretty easy to see from the context he’s referring to stolen base attempts against.
You're right. My bad...
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:10 am to
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context
Doesn't exist in some people's minds. They're more concerned with syntax, grammar, and what a record temp is.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:11 am to
There was also a PB on Wyeth in the last game he was behind the plate but it seems the scorer did not score it that way.

Regardless, I think it’s clear that Milazzo is our best defensive option. Assuming the rest of the lineup gets their heads out of their asses, we don’t need to worry about his bat.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:13 am to
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Regardless, I think it’s clear that Milazzo is our best defensive option.
It's not close. I got to see him make that catch up against the net vs Youngstown. There are things that don't get in the stat column and you can see and know he's far above the rest.
Posted by TTexas Tiger
BR
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:13 am to
defensively (stolen bases on them while behind the plate).
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:16 am to
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defensively (stolen bases on them while behind the plate).
You still read it wrong. Milazzo has allowed 7 and caught 1. Wyath has allowed 2 and thrown out 2. But the 7 Milazzo allowed may not have been scored correctly. Regardless, it's obvious Milazzo is the better option.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:19 am to
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It's not close. I got to see him make that catch up against the net vs Youngstown.

That was a spectacular catch, no question about it.
Posted by sportsfan
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:21 am to
Let's not forget the balls in the dirt that runners have tried to advance on. I recall Milazzo gunning down at least two on those plays.
Posted by JoeWeDidIt
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Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:27 am to
Milazzo is for sure the better defensive catcher...but that .170 batting average just doesn't sit right with me. I understand the season is young....I'd like to see what his WAR is. Then maybe more people would be on the Wyeth train
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:33 am to
Milazzo is starting to square balls up. I wanted more looks at Wyeth but it's clear that he's only a guy that should maybe catch 1 weekend game and 1 week day game. I just don't see him being enough of an offensive upgrade to justify the drop on defense at one of the most important positions on the field.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:35 am to
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I'd like to see what his WAR is



Absolutely useless at the college level.



Actually not even very useful at the big league level either
Posted by JoeWeDidIt
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Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:42 am to
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Absolutely useless at the college level.



for the sake of this debate it seems pretty dang fitting

Im not crazy about metrics, but every single one of us has a different set of standards for their "eye test."

Posted by Naptime
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:48 am to
You would have to ask PM that
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:51 am to
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Milazzo is for sure the better defensive catcher...but that .170 batting average just doesn't sit right with me.


If the other 8 in the lineup are hitting well I can live with this because of his defense. Similar to Stevenson and Nola their freshman seasons. Didn’t matter what they hit their defense was enough to keep them on the field.

I would want him batting 8th tho. Not a fan of him in the 9 hole.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:52 am to
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for the sake of this debate it seems pretty dang fitting




I don’t know how one would even go about figuring out how to calculate it.

What is a college replacement player? It’s definitely not the same across all conferences.

Even if you figure that out Wyeth has only appeared in 8 games at the D1 level.

WAR is a flawed stat in the MLB where you have a multitude of numbers on “replacement level” minor leaguers all going against relatively comparable competition.

It is absolutely useless in a non standardized league like College Baseball.
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