re: CBS Sports has O on the hot seat.

I get it. I guess my thing is that people say that excuses are made for him that wouldn't be made for other coaches and that he should be treated like other coaches. I'm one of those people too. But, any other coach wouldn't be on the hot seat after winning 9 games last year and IMO, he shouldn't either.

If he 9 this year and has a bad loss or 2, then sure, put the 10 win expectation there for '19 and if he doesn't make it, then he's gone. That's being on the hot seat IMO.

Is this a surprise to you when you are part of a fan base that bashes the hell out of him in his first year as head coach with 9 wins and a bowl game ( yes i understand we lost to Troy and loss the bowl game). It is easy for CBS to throw that out there when they see and hear the fans of LSU whining like a bunch of 12 year old girls... Granted i want to be the best of the best but i will give the man another year to try and put his system in and recruit his style of players before talking shite

1. O's not on the "hot seat" unless Alleva is as well. Alleva is not firing the guy he championed as the best man for the job just two years after making the hire. To do so would basically mean Alleva admitting he fricked up and that he shouldn't be allowed to hire another coach. If O were to go after this season it would be because Alleva was out before or with him.

2. Notwithstanding #1, O is on the hot seat to the extent that 8-9 wins simply isn't, or shouldn't be "good enough." As many other posters have said, he didn't take over a program that had bottomed out. He took over a program that for over a decade won at least 8 games (many times more than that) every season. He wasn't hired to continue that level of success. He was hired to improve upon it. Otherwise, there would have been ZERO reason to fire Miles. He was hired to maintain the continuity of the good aspects of the program (notably recruiting) while fixing the deficiencies (Miles' refusal to change his mediocre offensive approach).

One season in, Ogeron hasn't improved upon the usual level of winning the program experience under Miles. He signed the lowest ranked recruiting class in a decade and he fired his very highly paid OC after one season (costing the program $3 mill for one year of work in the process) only to promote the TE coach from the "deficient" offensive staff under Miles to OC.

That's not to say 2018 won't be the best season in LSU history (who knows?). But it does mean that after one season the objective results indicate Ogeron has done nothing to really "improve" the program he inherited. If he has another season like the last AND fails to SIGN the potential highly ranked recruiting class he his lining up, then I think it is very reasonable to wonder if he will ever be able to get the program to the level he was presumably hired to take it to...thus making this season VERY important in his potential future as LSU's HC.

To me the term "hot seat" means the decision makers are looking for you to do something that warrants justification for continuing to employ you at that job. IMO, that's what 2018 is for Ogeron. Give us some reason to think you can make LSU a championship level program

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You people are just stupid..... Miles was not fired for winning 8/9 games a year. You can continue to believe it and post it, but that doesn't make it true..

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Then please enlighten everyone as to why Miles was fired?

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Not really. He won 9 games last year.

This year he has his own hand picked coordinators, QB, etc.

If we regress in on field productivity, who is at fault?

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Name one QB that has started a game? And Burrow wasn't even here for Spring. The other guy weighs 180 pounds soak and wet.

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The other guy weighs 180 pounds soak and wet.

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Both soak AND wet??!!!

I do declare!!

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It shouldn't because that's exactly what Les Miles was fired for.

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NO... it wasn't stupid....

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Now if LSU falls to the 5-6 win range. That could change the story on CEO. But I would assume they would look at who we beat and how we lost to certain teams.

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This right here is everything that is wrong with our fan base and administration.

Anyone that isn’t outraged by that statement is an absolute fool.

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Guys gets 3 years unless he completely stumbles and has a 3-9 season this year and starts 0-2 or 1-2 next year.

1. Have too much in buyout money already
2. Sends a really bad message to fire a coach after 1 or 2 seasons for winning 9 games year 1.
3. Need to fire Alleva first. (If O needs to be fired)

Time will tell but as of now even though I dont believe hes the man for the job he has at least 2 more seasons.

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Yes... Alleva would have to fired first as you wouldn't want him anywhere near making this hire.

For 2 years I have said that if O can make it through this schedule this season, that LSU would begin trending upwards. That is, IF, and only IF he put urgency in recruiting the QB position. It certainly looks like he is doing that, and he is certainly making all the right moves IMO.

He has been on the hot seat so to speak since day one. It may or may not be justified but the hire was very head scratching with a lot of doubt behind it. A good season this year and all the doubt should be erased .