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re: CBK statements on the development plan for Jayden
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:00 pm to TopWaterTiger
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:00 pm to TopWaterTiger
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The nega-tiger will say we had to recruit him back, so we don't like our QB options. The posi-tiger will say it shows a clear path to develop him better and help him improve himself and his draft stock.
I think you mixed it up. I think it is just the opposite that say this.
Or just stop using that shitty term.
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:03 pm to SammyTiger
Absolutely.
And I'll clarify, I'm not equating being a day 1 pick to being a successful NFL quarterback. But I can definitely see Daniels going early.
And I'll clarify, I'm not equating being a day 1 pick to being a successful NFL quarterback. But I can definitely see Daniels going early.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:09 pm to Tvilletiger
As frustrating it was last year at times, Jayden was pretty damn efficient 16 TD passes, 3 pics, 11 rushing TDs and 800 yds.....He was our offense.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:11 pm to jlbasm
quote:As I said, he has everything the NFL wants, except bulk. His arm is plenty good enough, he moves like a WR1 in the open field, he's been durable despite running so much. His accuracy is solid.
Lol Daniels is not a first or second round pick.
For intangibles, he's NOT prone to throwing interceptions, and he HAS stepped up on a lot of late drive.
The only valid issue people here bitch about is his hesitance to throw quick/early. He holds to confirm it's the right read.
That's the type of thing you can fix with coaching. Basically, it's on a spectrum-
A) you hesitate too long (Daniels)
B) ideal
C) you overestimate your arm, and/or don't read the play, and force things in (Nussmeier).
Daniels doesn't NOT throw because he can't make that throw (he can), he's just not quite comfortable it's there. He needs to 'see it/do it'.
The stuff Kelly is talking about is what can get him to that point.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:28 pm to ATLTiger
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Other elite quarterbacks
But but but coach we have been told by some posting here that he’s actually a shitty or mediocre quarterback. lol
Seems to be no quarterback controversy in the mind of the guy who counts.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:28 pm to Scoob
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As I said, he has everything the NFL wants, except bulk. His arm is plenty good enough, he moves like a WR1 in the open field, he's been durable despite running so much. His accuracy is solid. For intangibles, he's NOT prone to throwing interceptions, and he HAS stepped up on a lot of late drive. The only valid issue people here bitch about is his hesitance to throw quick/early. He holds to confirm it's the right read. That's the type of thing you can fix with coaching. Basically, it's on a spectrum- A) you hesitate too long (Daniels) B) ideal C) you overestimate your arm, and/or don't read the play, and force things in (Nussmeier). Daniels doesn't NOT throw because he can't make that throw (he can), he's just not quite comfortable it's there. He needs to 'see it/do it'. The stuff Kelly is talking about is what can get him to that point.
So beautiful laid out.
I’m excited for Daniel’s progress this season!
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:40 pm to jlbasm
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Lol Daniels is not a first or second round pick.
If Anthony Richardson is projected to go 1st round, Daniels sure as hell would’ve went in the 2nd at least
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:50 pm to jlbasm
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Lol Daniels is not a first or second round pick.
Neither was Burrow this time in 2019. Maybe give the guy some time? I’m not saying he’s gunna be a all time player with the greatest year ever but maybe just hold off on writing him off
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:51 pm to ATLTiger
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"It was about continuing the development of a quarterback at that stage. And when we met with him, and he saw that we had a compressive plan, it helped him make his decision."
I didn't realize that Coaches had five/six year plans for QBs.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:26 pm to ATLTiger
you're the real OP
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:47 pm to Tvilletiger
I wont believe any of it until that first game against FSU. That will tell me all i need to know about his development. Call me a skeptic but i didnt believe Joe Burrow saying the offense had changed his senior year but you know what he changed that real quick. Daniels will have to do the same thing.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:16 pm to FLObserver
quote:You're going to judge based on game 1 of his last season? Seems a bit premature, but whatever. I suspect opening the season in Orlando against a ranked Fla State team (basically a road game) will be pretty tough, for anyone.
I wont believe any of it until that first game against FSU. That will tell me all i need to know about his development.
But there's 2 things to watch:
1st will be that Nabers, not Boutte, will be his primary target. He zeroed in on Boutte because of reputation, but Boutte didn't perform. Now, he's got personal experience that Nabers will. So I think that first read will be more confident and decisive, unless Nabers suddenly starts dropping everything too.
2nd thing will be if Nabers is blanketed, how quick does he go to Taylor or another WR? Again, there's some familiarity with the 2nd choice now, so that should speed up.
The real key will be if he seems faster running through these reads overall, even figuring in that he now knows who to go to. If he scrambles, you're hoping he does because he sees the targets are covered, and/or there's a big hole for him to exploit... and he does so before the line breaks down.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:39 pm to Scoob
quote:We’ll it will be his 5th season as a starter. Judging him then doesn’t seem premature at all.
You're going to judge based on game 1 of his last season? Seems a bit premature, but whatever. I suspect opening the season in Orlando against a ranked Fla State team (basically a road game) will be pretty tough, for anyone.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:28 pm to TrouserTrout
Apologies for not linking the front page story into this article. That is my bad. I guess I read it on the home page and just figured it was part of the general conversation going on the rant.
Basically was just saying glad coach is doing this, glad they are being so professional about his development, and also I know recruits are paying attention to that stuff. If they make it a successful program then even better for the current team and being able to go into living rooms and being the best talent here.
Basically was just saying glad coach is doing this, glad they are being so professional about his development, and also I know recruits are paying attention to that stuff. If they make it a successful program then even better for the current team and being able to go into living rooms and being the best talent here.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:35 am to Scoob
I think you read that wrong wrong lol. He's going to judge him based off of this upcoming game against fsu not last year's game lol.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:18 am to sicboy
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Anthony Richardson is being projected as a possible top 5 picks, at least 1st round.
I’m gonna laugh hard at whatever team wastes a first round draft pick on that guy.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:05 am to TrouserTrout
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We’ll it will be his 5th season as a starter. Judging him then doesn’t seem premature at all.
I really don’t know why people hold his time at ASU against him. The place was a shite show and had coaches actively sabotaging the team. Not exactly a good way for a player to succeed
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:16 am to ATLTiger
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We had to recruit him back. We had to give him a comprehensive plan for what we would do in the weight room. And how we would continue to develop him technically as a quarterback."
"And then utilizing the resources that we have here. We have VR, we have the ability to train year-round, and having receivers here for him.
The thing is that Daniels knew all of this already. CBK doesn’t want to come out and say it, but you can read between the lines. Someone offered more money and we had to match. It’s always about money, especially with the guys who say, “It’s not about the money.”
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:42 am to Penrod
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The thing is that Daniels knew all of this already. CBK doesn’t want to come out and say it, but you can read between the lines. Someone offered more money and we had to match. It’s always about money, especially with the guys who say, “It’s not about the money.”
Do you have a modicum of proof to what you’re saying? Because it sounds like BS. No one else was offering him money. Because most people thought he was going pro. There’s nothing to “read between the lines”
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:54 am to Penrod
That was my take as well. That while in California another school offered him nil money to play for them. I’m glad we are able to keep him. His speed might be understated and his elusiveness is elite. If he can learn to read the defense and throw to secondary receivers he will be a freak at this level. It’s also necessary, if he plans to play in the NFL.
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