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re: Casual fans are the problem
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:28 am to jptiger2009
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:28 am to jptiger2009
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see Auburn 2007 to name one
8 years ago?
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:30 am to jonboy
He didn't put a time limit on it. He said Les Miles coached team.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:33 am to pt448
The Auburn game in 2007 - a great play that nearly never happened because Les didn't call his last time out as time expired.
ETA: 8 years ago - the team today isn't even close to the 2007 team.
ETA: 8 years ago - the team today isn't even close to the 2007 team.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 11:34 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:34 am to jonboy
Michigan State has 5 Sr's and 4 Jr's starting on offense. Most were redshirted as freshmen. This is their 4th or 5th year in a top college program. That is huge, and the reason they were able to have that incredible drive at the end of the Iowa game.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:38 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Hardcore football fans know LSU has as many or more resources to win as compared to anybody else and should expect more than we've been getting.
I think it's the other way around. "Hardcore" football fans understand what this team's true limitations were while the sidewalk fans run around yelling and screaming about "the offense" instead of simple execution by the players.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:41 am to Pacito
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Michigan State has 5 Sr's and 4 Jr's starting on offense. Most were redshirted as freshmen. This is their 4th or 5th year in a top college program. That is huge, and the reason they were able to have that incredible drive at the end of the Iowa game.
So only senior laden teams can execute drives like they did?
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:44 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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while the sidewalk fans run around yelling and screaming about "the offense" instead of simple execution by the players.
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sidewalk fans
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Draconian Sanctions
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run around yelling and screaming
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Hardcore football fans know LSU has as many or more resources to win as compared to anybody else and should expect more than we've been getting.
Casual fans who don't know anything think LSU can't do any better and see Les as a sympathetic figure.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:46 am to Draconian Sanctions
Casual fans are the reason we have such nice facilities moron
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:53 am to jonboy
No, he meant that a team filled with players that have been a system for 3 or four years or more, that have significant game experience during that period, is much more likely to put together a drive like that.
LSU didn't have that this season. Is it possible that the problem is that LSU recruits too many really good players and that too many move on the NFL before they reach that 4th or 5th year in the program, and have to be replaced by younger kids? It would be interesting to know how may kids Michigan State had who declared for the draft early over the last few years.
LSU didn't have that this season. Is it possible that the problem is that LSU recruits too many really good players and that too many move on the NFL before they reach that 4th or 5th year in the program, and have to be replaced by younger kids? It would be interesting to know how may kids Michigan State had who declared for the draft early over the last few years.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
How convenient, if you are against Miles, you are hardcore. If you are for Miles, you are a casual fan and a problem. I'd say if you continue to whine and complain about the coaching decision, you are immature and a problem. I assure you, if Miles had been replaced, I would not have whined. He was not-- still not gonna whine. Continuing to do so, only hurts LSU-- it certainly won't hurt Miles-- he is getting paid.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:55 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Sure, tell yourself that. Instead of "casual" how about "fans who live in reality". Take a look around and there is ONE program - ONE that meet what the "Hardcore" LSU fans expectations are - Alabama.
Right now in college football Saban is far and away the best HC in the game. I wish the "hardcore" LSU fans would realize those facts.
Nobody is disputing that. What concerns me is that Alabama isn't the only one outperforming us in recent years. We have taken a backseat to Ole Miss two years in a row, MSU and Auburn once in the last two years, and Arkie is passing us as we speak. In the last EIGHT years, we are a combined 8-8 vs. Ole Miss and Arkansas, arguably the two weakest programs in the division over that time frame, in spite of their recent gains. The only SEC West team that hasn't beaten us at least one of the last two games is Texas A&M. Florida seems on the right track to get back to their former levels. Tennessee is coming on, albeit slowly. And, of course, around the country there are several others (Ohio State, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Florida State, for four quick examples).
The problem is a hell of a lot bigger than Nick Saban.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Casual fans who don't know anything think LSU can't do any better and see Les as a sympathetic figure.
I pay my TAF dues and donation, I pay for my season tickets, I paid for my diploma from LSU, and I've been going to games since I was 6 years old in 1984. I'm the farthest thing from a casual fan and I like Les. You dickholes think 10 win seasons grow on trees. If there's not somebody to talk sense into some of you, y'all would have run off the coach and we'd be 2 seasons into some Butch Jones nightmare right now. Furthermore, nobody needs some sidewalk fans who haven't ever been to a game stirring this message board up into fricking mania.
You know, I don't even know why I'm adding fuel to the fire. Les is the coach and will be for probably the duration of his contract. After this Alleva debacle haven't the nega-tigers realized it? You lost. Sunshine pumpers won. Either get out of the way or get the frick out.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
How can you say that when you're comparing us to other programs of which you may be a casual fan, or less?
Your logic dictates you don't have the knowledge of other programs to make that comparison.
Your logic dictates you don't have the knowledge of other programs to make that comparison.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:59 am to beauxroux
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I assure you, if Miles had been replaced, I would not have whined.
Did you not read the board over the last month? The CLM lovers were whining non stop..."be careful what you wish for", "we will remember this when our next coach isn't as successful", "I will not be a fan anymore", "LSU isn't as attractive a job as yall think", blah blah blah....quit acting like only the ones who wanted him gone whine
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:59 am to jonboy
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8 years ago?
Does last year count? 14 play, 95 yard drive in the 4th quarter to take the lead over Ole Miss. Of course we ran it every play but the last one, but hey it is Les after all
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
True. That has been the problem since 2004. Ticket prices went thru the roof and only rich people can afford them now. When I was a kid we sat by the "Coon Asses". I don't mean that as an insult. Cajun people. They would scream and yell, etc. Now, rich people mostly go there for a social event and don't give two shits on the game. That is the problem. 
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:01 pm to Weaver
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only rich people can afford them now
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:02 pm to Pacito
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Or could it be that some people realize ...blah blah blah blah yada yada yada ... Just another list of excuses.
Condensed and edited to be more accurate.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:03 pm to Topwater Trout
Still doesn't change my statement. Everything that happened before the decision was made to keep Miles is not the issue. Although there was whining on both sides, The anti-Miles group had a 2 to 1 post history. The decision was made. Tell me how the continual whining helps the LSU program? I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:07 pm to Pacito
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some people realize how long it takes coaching to show up on the field. How 18 and 19 yr old lineman in their first or second year will, more times than not, struggle against 3rd and 4th year players. How a young QB starting his first year will have up and down moments. Will rush throws and get confused often. How having a new Defensive Coordinator with some different t
This is dead wrong.
College coaches, as opposed to the NFL, can have an almost immediate impact. Look at Harbaugh this year at Michigan. Saban took only 2 years at Bama. Many, many other examples of quick turnarounds at the college level.
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