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Caskeys Clicker Nuss and Daniel's passing review.

Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:55 pm
I watched his breakdown of Nuss and JD from the seccg, and one thing I noticed is that if a receiver was open, Nuss almost always found that receiver. He sees the field very well.

One of the things that Joe Burrow was so good at was hitting the open guy. If a defense was out of position, he'd make them pay.

JD really struggled, as he did all season, with finding and then hitting open receivers.

I'm not piling on, it's just an observation.
Posted by The Baker
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:57 pm to
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JD really struggled, as he did all season, with finding and then hitting open receivers.

You're just peddling conspiracy theories.
Posted by Nitrogen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2016
7120 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:58 pm to
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I'm not piling on, it's just an observation.


yet posting the same JD5 is shite analysis everyone else is posting
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80181 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:00 pm to
Is that why 2 of his throws hit safeties hands?
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:01 pm
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Is that why 2 of his throws hit safeties hands?
At least he threw it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68699 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:03 pm to
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JD really struggled, as he did all season, with finding and then hitting open receivers.


didn't he have 150+ yds in the 1st qtr and a higher completion percentage?
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Is that why 2 of his throws hit safeties hands?


To me it looks like Nuss is really good at diagnosing stuff pre snap and running through progressions but if he is pressured, he will blindly trust his pre snap read and that leads him to trouble.
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3581 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Nuss almost always found that receiver


Nuss 15/27 passing

quote:

JD really struggled


Daniels 16/24 passing

Come on now.
Posted by LAhinguarst
The Box
Member since Oct 2020
452 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:04 pm to
One thing that drove me crazy, but never seemed to hurt us, was JD5 consistently UNDERTHROWING the deep ball. There has been maybe one deep ball all year that JD5 hit in stride, almost all the other ones the WR had to adjust to the ball. How a CB never turned around and had the ball fall right into his hands is a mystery to me!
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:16 pm to
got a link for this? I would like to see same.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38027 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:27 pm to
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He sees the field very well.



I'm not sure I agree with this but I haven't watched many breakdowns of his play. I know on the pick he threw he stared down his receiver and did not see the safety sliding over the top. If he looks the other way first I think the safety gets frozen.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24161 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Nuss almost always found that receiver Nuss 15/27 passing quote:JD really struggled Daniels 16/24 passing Come on now.


It’s hilarious to post some box score reading without understanding that doesn’t say what you think it says.

How many open receivers did JD not see resulting him passing them up for a check down?

How many did Nuss see but missed? Any drops? How many of those incompletions were on 3rd down where Nuss attempted to pick it up by throwing down field? What were the defenses?

I mean I’m not making an argument either way, but responding to an actual film study of the game with “here are stats that have no context or nuance” is silly to me.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80181 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:40 pm to
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To me it looks like Nuss is really good at diagnosing stuff pre snap and running through progressions but if he is pressured, he will blindly trust his pre snap read and that leads him to trouble.

I agree
Posted by d2
NC
Member since Jan 2009
461 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:55 pm to
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How many did Nuss see but missed? Any drops? How many of those incompletions were on 3rd down where Nuss attempted to pick it up by throwing down field?


I think Nuss looked great in spots, but to be fair, he was also erratic and threw in double coverage multiple times. He kind of has that Brett Favre to him, he can make ballsy throws that no one can, then next play make you bang your head.

I would like us to start pushing forward a little more and I’m not sure JD is the answer next year, but I think the coaches got it right this year.

We had too many limitations on d-line and defense, to be able to handle a 4 int type game.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9674 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:56 pm to
Posting cold completion numbers is entirely divorced from context in the game. Which makes them worthless at comparing two QBs.

A quarterback who throws a 50% completion by throwing all check downs because he doesn't see the open receivers running their routes plays considerably worse than another quarterback who throws a 50% completion when most of his throws are 10 plus yards downfield or are being dropped.

Using just completion percentage is downright stupid when comparing quarterbacks.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15152 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:59 pm to
Bingo!

There’s a reason all 11 UGA defenders were within 10 yards of the LOS when JD was playing QB.

Nuss’ passing has the ability to open up the entire field. The difference is Nuss sees the open receiver and releases the ball immediately. His release is fast AF as is the ball he throws. JD throw a nice ball too, but he doesn’t see the receivers as fast and damn sure doesn’t trust his own stuff like Nuss does.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25257 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:00 pm to
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JD really struggled, as he did all season, with finding and then hitting open receivers

For the season, I would agree, but he completed 66% of his passes for 208 yards and a TD aginst what was the #1 D in 1 half. LSU moved the ball very well from the very beginning of the game even with the run game getting stuffed. So Daneiels did a really good job against UGA.

But when the special teams gave up a 10-point swing, then they had a freak helmet-hitting INT. which should have been PI because the UGA dude hit our WR early (as they did all game) and then the D collapsed, nothing else mattered.

Nuss was great with finding WRs and throwing awesome downfield passes (especially the one where they should have had him sacked).
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38027 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:00 pm to
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got a link for this? I would like to see same.




Play me a song Curtis Loew, Curtis Loew
Well I got your drinking money tune up your dobro

Sorry, couldn't resist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xZhfXJxdUs

There is the link. I'm not so sure he is saying what the OP implies.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38027 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:02 pm to
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JD really struggled, as he did all season, with finding and then hitting open receivers.


The funny thing is Caskey says none of that and is praising the play calling and execution for JD. Especially since he was limited due to his ankle.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34112 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:15 pm to
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A quarterback who throws a 50% completion by throwing all check downs because he doesn't see the open receivers running their routes plays considerably worse than another quarterback who throws a 50% completion when most of his throws are 10 plus yards downfield or are being dropped.

I think JD’s longest was around 12 yards but most were between 3 and 8 yards.
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