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re: Can the center and QB not stay after practice 5 minutes a day to learn under center snap?

Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82921 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:31 pm to
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What would be a bigger tell than the only play you take from under center is a QB sneak. No way the other team could figure that out.



this, JD is pushing 50 starts, it ain't happening
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37892 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:32 pm to
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when is anyone ever confused about a QB sneak from the 1 yard line .

Its not meant to be deceptive.




Then shouldn't it be called a QB obvious?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46008 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Then shouldn't it be called a QB obvious?



OK OK OK - it's way past noon - but technically this IS the first belly chuckle of the day so you get the award

- it's been a bad day already -
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
20351 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:41 pm to
They struggled with QB sneaks when Burrow was at LSU.
Posted by caliegeaux
Booo Cheeeen
Member since Aug 2004
11496 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Bama blocks a punt and it goes out on the OM 1 yard line. Bama has the biggest O-Line in CFB, and a 240 pound QB. So naturally go in shotgun from the 1, center airmails the snap on 1st down, and they eventually settle for a FG

Makes no damn sense at all


sense? no. but it brings joy that it happened to bama.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Bama-Ole Miss, Bama blocks a punt and it goes out on the OM 1 yard line. Bama has the biggest O-Line in CFB, and a 240 pound QB. So naturally go in shotgun from the 1, center airmails the snap on 1st down, and they eventually settle for a FG


I really thought they were going to lose the game after this sequence. Ole Miss just could not get anything going offensively but that was a hilarious series of plays.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3561 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 4:36 pm to
I was watching the Florida game replay last year and Daniels took at least one snap from under center. He can do it. Has done it.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37892 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:51 pm to
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OK OK OK - it's way past noon - but technically this IS the first belly chuckle of the day so you get the award

- it's been a bad day already -


Kinda made my day that someone got a good chuckle out of that one. Hope tomorrow is a better day, my man.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23440 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:55 pm to
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I hate it too, but it must be related to Daniels' abilities


Well, this must be true, b/c if not, the only explanation is that our head coach and his staff are imbeciles

Is that what you 12 downvoters are saying?
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:34 pm to
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What would be a bigger tell than the only play you take from under center is a QB sneak. No way the other team could figure that out.

This is the dumbest shite I’ve ever read. No one ever tries to disguise a QB sneak. It’s the most effective play in football. You don’t have to disguise it
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46726 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:39 pm to
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when is anyone ever confused about a QB sneak from the 1 yard line

I’ve seen a lot of QB sneaks not work.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16536 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:34 am to
Could not possibly agree more.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22811 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:40 am to
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I don't think it gets worse than watching the Panthers subbing out their #1 pick Young for Andy Dalton on 4th downs because they don't think Young can take a snap under center.


Wait it wasn’t that Dalton is significantly bigger than Young and that would be helpful since all you are trying to do is move the pile forward.
Posted by MicahTiger
Member since Dec 2021
448 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:46 am to
Context is important here...it's not that they are uncomfortable with the snap...it's that we are more comfortable with the shotgun, because that's what we use most times.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4062 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:01 am to
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Everyone knows what the Eagles are doing and they do it anyway


I hear you but Jayden Daniels is not Jalen Hurts.

Hurts is a very large strong human
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6809 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:39 am to
It’s not the snaps that are tough about going under center. The footwork and timing are way different and that’s the part of JDs game that is inconsistent, so why make it harder for him?

Also, teams go under center to establish gap scheme run game and play action passing off of that. LSU runs inside zone about 80% of the time so you would have to dramatically alter the run game scheme. You don’t want your qb turning his back to defense on iz with no way to read anything. That’s a recipe for a no gain play
Posted by Tigerbait8
Biloxi
Member since Aug 2012
2178 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:05 am to
Don’t think you quite understand. It’s more than just a center-QB exchange. The whole line has to get countless reps with Jayden to be in sync with his cadence. This works better for pro style teams like Michigan because they can move off the ball much faster than a spread team who’s 99% out of the gun because they have developed chemistry off of the QB’s cadence.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46726 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:41 am to
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Can the center and QB not stay after practice 5 minutes a day

What you are asking here is if the QB and center can go home when practice ends. What you meant to ask was if they could stay. If you remove the word “not” from your sentence you would be asking the right question.

More than likely you were looking to add emphasis. If so you could have asked, “Why can’t the…”
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1545 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:38 am to
You actually think Kelly and Denbrock would risk their prized QB getting injured buried under a pile for a one yard gain??? But, I agree not utilizing the sneak play when you need a half a yard is one of the more frustrating aspects of modern football. Like, dude...just get the first down/touchdown and move on. No reason to overthink it.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5273 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:26 pm to
It doesn't make any sense. We went under center twice against Grambling iirc, once for Daniels to spike it and once with Nuss at the 1. If you watched Philly last night when they scored 20 pts, that under center play is virtually unstoppable with the push downhill. We need to mix this in once a game just to keep the D honest.
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